Travis,

I apologize for being so tardy in my reply, been very busy at work.

>there are skin crawlers in every nook in this planet.

Hmm...that's a new one for me. Until I read Colm's book, I had not heard of a 'skin-walker' before. Apparently its a Native American Indian phrase which describes a particular Spiritual phenomenon. Perhaps you could elucidate for us just what the term means? No, I am not being a smart-ass here, while its true the book has that title, it actually does not go into any significant detail regarding the phenomenon.

>But i guess they won't be real until a ph.d. validated

I understand your point on this and its been one of my personal complaints as well, however that wasn't my point. Having a bunch of Ph.D.s validate something is not validation in my opinion. Actually, most people might be surprised at just how clueless the so-called 'experts' or the 'authorities' are when exposed to significant phenomena...they are just as dumb-founded as the next person, with the added restriction being, 'that's impossible!!" exhortations emiting from them. At least that's been some of my observational experience. However, that state generally lasts a few moments and one of two things event, 1) they exit the scene as they really can't handle it, as its "impossible", or 2) they become focused scientists with a rigorous vigor the likes of which is hard to imagine. Like a shiney new toy to be dissected. No, having Ph.D.s study phenomenon isn't about validation, its about understanding in a quantitative and quality manner and they are typically the best prepared to do so, that is, if they are any good. Lots of Ph.D.s are over-stuffed walking books who are experts in everything known and not very good at understanding that which is unknown. Interestingly, many of the best scientists throughout history weren't well educated in the standards of the day.

>you must be bored, to reccomend a second hand read of a book.

Well, yes I am bored, hell, look where I'm posting these days? Compared with the exalted lists of a few years ago which have all disappeared behind firewalls or just disappeared? Re; the book, I recommend the book 'cause its got good data for those who are interested in a little more than the plethora of babblings by airy-fairy-love-light-&-clueless crowd. The book, while it hosts a hidden agenda for the author and publisher of the work, its the real-deal....I know. It contains a hint about things which people just don't hear about. Its for that reason I shared the existance of the book. And then, there's the other book written concurrently with the Skin-Walker treatise, and was produced out the same data. Now that book gives an additional insight...for the saavy. "The Brain Trust", by Colm Kelleher. Its on the NYBS list, only there is not a peep about where the cattle-mute research data was derived or the circumstances. Completely in scope here in the 12 Planet Nibiru.tribe, cosidering its the Reptilian binary transiter planet...Reptilians are the Skin-Walkers, aren't they?

>But i guess it is better to leave your guess to an 'expert' huh?

Well, you said it, Colm Kelleher in his own right is an expert. He was a salaried (funded by a billionaire, who is also an 'expert') scientist, the director of the ET Research Unit of NIDS. Not just a 'bunch' of Ph.D.s mind you, but capable people in both the engineering and scientific communities. You know, people who can do stuff. People like Jacques Vallee or Hal Puthoff or Eric Davis, you know, people who have a public record of doing remarkable things with their intellect. This bunch of Ph.D.s, all 54 of them, salaried, worked for Colm studying the phenomenon at the Skin Walker ranch. That's who wrote the book. I found the book a little soft on the data considering the magnitude of the events transpiring.

>why don't you go and experience and validate half the crap you report?

I can't tell you what I know, --nearly every conversation I have with the average person requires enormous expendature of time to minimally indoctrinate them to enable some interchange. I'm sorry that you think my posts are non-sense. However, I have to tell you, I gave up a long time ago trying to educate people. Frankly I really don't care if people believe or not, some will and some won't. Its the nature of Humanity. Nothing to fight, nothing to win.

>Instead of mouthing crap from individuals, why don't you share your own authentic reaserach, assuming such a thing exists.

Well, I have been, but heck you don't like it. Let me ask you a question, what do you think constitutes 'authentic research'? Just field work?
For every hour of field work, there was probably two years of preperation research to support the effort. Most research is comprised of reading everything one can find about the subject being investigated...reading about other's work, hell that's what books are all about. When I share a book with you guys, I'm not just saying that I like it, I'm sharing a portion of my research findings with you in a tangible accessible form. How many books are out there? How many contain quality quantitative information about specific phenomenon pertaining to the subject of this list? I'll bet you can't find ONE, aside from perhaps those of Z. Sitchin or R. Boulay or A. Zelikov? Most of you don't know enough about Nibiru or its history in the Vedas to be able to discern why the Skin-Walker book is commensurate, yet I share that information. Read the book, you'll know what I'm talking about.

>Who gives a flying ----what others do or witness?

Ahh...maybe you think this is a Linda Goodman style book? Colm is a scientist with an agenda. His book isn't about telling people about stuff, its a tool, an intelligence gathering mechanism, I suspect, and it is good. I was invited to a Kenneth Ring (on retainer by Bob Bigelow) lecture about Ring's near-death consciousness experience research at the University of Neveda, hosted in the Bigelow Humanities building (a 30 story building on campus which Bob donated there) where I met Colm, John Alexander, Ed Dames & girl freind and Eric Davis. Later I was invited to NIDS and chatted with he and his staff at NIDS. Colm is a very smart guy. Try to grant him a little slack until you read what he has to say, ok?

>bore us with your own authentic crap anyway

Well I'm trying to?? But you don't seem to like it. Much of my authentic crap is in trying to understand what others have discovered before me, so I have some clues about where and what to search for in my investigations. To do so requires reading. You probably know that in the ET sciences everything is kept secret. One might ask why? Why do researchers hide their data from each other? I've read many books --in fact I've probably read 500 books on the subject in the past ten years, how about you? Recently, I found an exceptional old book by Frank Edwards, "Flying Saucers, Serious Business". Some of the older members may remember Edwards. He was a famous newspaper, radio and TV journalist who was born at the turn of the century, 1897. The book reveals a fascinating perspective on American perceptions re; flying saucers in the days before Kenneth Arnold. Fascinating information, stuff that's forgotten or hidden today. One of my favorites from the book is the Jenkins Radio Camera story. Now thats a fascinating story and one which impressed a far reaching influence in Earth's technical evolution. If anyone is interested in an old ET contact event, conducted by the US Military before they were hiding everything, I'll expend the effort to post it, verbatim. Its also a little unsettling.

Here's one of my personal research questions, one in a long list of things I am investigating....how is it possible that a TV network giant such as, say, NBC can be hosting live field presentations (ENG crew pointing cameras at sky) of in-the-sky phenomenon, where 100,000 Americans are watching in-situ both on TV and out their backdoors at the evening sky, and yet, the next county over, there's not a peep about the event on that same network about what's happening less than 15 miles away? This happened in 1998 in Phoenix, only it happened every night for a week, and was covered by all four major networks in only one county and no where else. If not for the InterNet and private individuals, this event would have slipped into the dim past of the ages like so many other past ET events. So, heres the question, who, makes the decision to not aire broadcast events pertaining to ET contact events? The subject of ET contact is considered, by "Psychology Today", a psychological 'flap' watch group, to be one of the most important social paradigms in modern American history.

>.... mouthing others research is just pedantic and boring, if you don't have something to add to the mix.

Oh have I mentioned that I have been writing a book these past ten years? One of these days I'll actually complete it and then, I too, will become, a 'noted' 'expert'. However, I promise to not allow my head to expand any larger than it is today.

>so go chase them shadows, but remember to pay your mortgage!

Oh I do pay my bills and I do chase those shadows. Infact, much of real ET field studies are just that and just as frustrating. Eric once said, "they act like they are playful, except for when they are cutting you", and then zip...gone.

>I highly reccomend a base in personal experience,

All of my experiences are personal. I have personally conducted numerous field interaction experiments, however, if I were to explain how they work, what happened, efforts to collect meaniful data....well you wouldn't believe me.

>rather than mouthing the conclusions of others back to others like it is some kind of original thought.

Frankly I am not certain at this juncture that you know the difference? Yes, its true I rely on much of what others say in books, and its also true that I consider my having found their data in their books as though it were new and useful information, hell that's the purpose of books to the researcher. When the datum combined reveals new information...you point to me and say that I am drawing conclusions of others as though it were "some kind of original thought". Maybe you miss my point here, I use anything and everything at my disposal to acquire useful information which when, mixed, massaged, spliced, kneaded, pounded, pinched, rolled, salted, chewed and or spit out to reveal new information I will do so. Thats how the science world works. In ET science, ET are VERY ELUSIVE, they are not just phenomenon, they know we are looking, and they are hiding from us....we must be clever. We are operating in the dark and the evidence suggests that they are influencing our perceptions.

"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence", Dr. Carl Sagan, JPL/CalTech physicist. (at the time of his passing, his girl friend was running an ET abduction clinic in Topanga Canyon, California, USA)

Love

tron
ps, if I've said anything which pisses anyone off, it isn't intentional, I apologize in advance.


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Re: shapeshifting
Fri, October 26, 2007 - 2:49 AM
there are skin crawlers in every nook in this planet. But i guess they won't be real until a ph.d. validated it huh? you must be bored, to reccomend a second hand read of a book. But i guess it is better to leave your guess to an 'expert' huh? why don't you go and experience and validate half the crap you report? Better yet, why don't half the thinking populace go validate it for yourselves?
It's wonderful to base your experience on the observatiion of a person you have yet to leave your loved ones in the safe keeping of. Lots of suggestiions with little real world interaction. Instead of mouthing crap from individuals, why don't you share your own authentic reaserach, assuming such a thing exists.

Who gives a flying ----what others do or witness? bore us with your own authentic crap anyway.... mouthing others research is just pedantic and boring, if you don't have something to add to the mix. so go chase them shadows, but remember to pay your mortgage! I highly reccomend a base in personal experience, rather than mouthing the conclusions of others back to others like it is some kind of original thought.