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    <title>Why are they blocking out part of the sky around Orion</title>
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      <name>enlilson</name>
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    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/b961d95a-c3ac-491e-be0d-d9dcf3ec9d1a</id>
    <updated>2008-08-07T06:09:32Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-29T13:52:21Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21Tzd5pp0fM
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Both MS and Google are altering the area around Orion. &lt;/div&gt;
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  <entry>
    <title>PERCHOLATE ON MARS FROM NIBIRAN ROCKETS by Sasha Lessin, Ph.D.</title>
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      <name>Sasha (Alex)</name>
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    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/187a099a-1501-42d3-a1c0-09d7e897abdf</id>
    <updated>2008-08-06T18:16:19Z</updated>
    <published>2008-08-06T07:55:10Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;PERCHOLATE ON MARS FROM NIBIRAN ROCKETS by Sasha Lessin, Ph.D.
&lt;br/&gt;www.enkispeaks.com
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;AP's Alicia Chang reports NASA's Phoenix spacecraft detected
&lt;br/&gt;the chemically reactive salt, percholate in the Martian soil.
&lt;br/&gt;Percholate is the main ingredient in solid rocket fuel but
&lt;br/&gt;percholate is not the fuel used by the Phoenix craft; Phoenix used
&lt;br/&gt;hydradine, another fuel on Mars.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Rocket fuel residues are exactly what students of Ancient
&lt;br/&gt;Mesopotamia would expect. The miners from Nibiru, the far-orbiting
&lt;br/&gt;tenth planet in our solar system, began landing their rockets on Mars
&lt;br/&gt;450,000 years ago. They build monuments, gold refineries, and
&lt;br/&gt;airports on the red planet. Here's their story as related in the
&lt;br/&gt;works of Sumerian expert Zacheria Sitchin:
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Ea, also known as Enki, Ptah and Aquarius Blasted to Earth
&lt;br/&gt;with water. He hid nuclear weapons the deposed Nibiran king Alalu
&lt;br/&gt;had brought to Earth. Ea rocketed from Nibiru toward Earth. He shot,
&lt;br/&gt;with water from his ship, Asteroid-Belt rocks in his path. Pilot
&lt;br/&gt;Anzu warned that they'd depleted their water. If they didn't
&lt;br/&gt;replenish it, their propulsion system would fail. Water from Mars
&lt;br/&gt;could save them.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;So EA AND ANZU LANDED ON MARS. Not only did it have water,
&lt;br/&gt;but it had an atmosphere too. "The water was good for drinking but
&lt;br/&gt;the air was insufficient for breathing, which means they needed
&lt;br/&gt;their "Eagle's helmets to breathe" [Tellinger, M., Slave Species of
&lt;br/&gt;god, page 432] On Mars, they drew water from a lake. [Sumerian
&lt;br/&gt;records on clay tablets unambiguously indicate water on Mars (long
&lt;br/&gt;before Twenty-First Century scientists documented water's presence
&lt;br/&gt;there)].
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Rocket's water replenished, Ea blasted for Earth, "its gold
&lt;br/&gt;Nibiru's fate for salvation or doom containing." [Sitchin, Z., The
&lt;br/&gt;Lost Book of Enki page 71]
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Back on Nibiru, King Anu and Enlil received Ea's news of vast
&lt;br/&gt;veins of gold. Enlil, angry still that brother Ea leads the Earth
&lt;br/&gt;Mission, demanded proof, not just of gold, but of lots of gold.
&lt;br/&gt;False hope Ea gave already that gold enough could from Earth's waters
&lt;br/&gt;could Nibiru's atmosphere save, said Enlil. The King, unhappy with
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil's complaints about Ea, gave in. Enlil, To Earth I order you.
&lt;br/&gt;Take charge there and the scope of Ea's gold find assess, said Anu.
&lt;br/&gt;[Info from Sitchin, Z., The Lost Book of Enki, page 86; Lessin
&lt;br/&gt;invented italicized dialogue].
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil made landfall on Earth and examined Ea's find. Enlil
&lt;br/&gt;beamed back to Nibiru that, despite his initial doubts, Earth
&lt;br/&gt;probably had gold enough to save Nibiru's atmosphere.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But the basic rivalry between Ea and Enlil (that plagues
&lt;br/&gt;Earth to this day) surfaced again.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;ANU, ENLIL &amp;amp; EA DRAW FOR NIBIRU, EARTH, SEAS &amp;amp; MINING
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Father Anu, Enlil beamed from Earth to Nibiru, affirm, by the
&lt;br/&gt;law of succession, that I, your son by your own half-sister Antu,
&lt;br/&gt;precede and have authority over Ea, though, he, your eldest son, be.
&lt;br/&gt;Come, Enlil implored, to Earth in person and deal with Alalu, too,
&lt;br/&gt;who claims rule here over Nibiru too. So, 416, 000 years ago, Anu
&lt;br/&gt;flew to Earth and drew lots with Ea and Enlil.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;At the drawing Anu decreed, one lot would bestow rule over
&lt;br/&gt;Nibiru; another lot would give its holder rule of Earth and control
&lt;br/&gt;the Persian Gulf headquarters; the last lot would give responsibility
&lt;br/&gt;for African mining operations and sea transport.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"By their lots the tasks they divided; Anu to Nibiru to
&lt;br/&gt;return, its ruler on the throne to remain. "The Edin [Mesopotamia] to
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil was allotted, to be Lord of Command, more settlements to
&lt;br/&gt;establish, of the skyships and their heros charge to take. Of all
&lt;br/&gt;the lands until they the bar of the seas encounter, the leader to
&lt;br/&gt;be.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"To Ea the seas and the oceans as his domain were granted,
&lt;br/&gt;lands beyond the bar of the waters by him to be governed, in the Abzu
&lt;br/&gt;[southeastern Africa] to be the master, with ingenuity the gold to
&lt;br/&gt;procure." [Sitchin, Z., Lost Book of Enki, pages 92 -93]
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil's first act was to award Enki his initial settlement,
&lt;br/&gt;Eridu, on the Persian Gulf, in perpetuity.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;No sooner did Anu and his sons divide rule of Nibiru and
&lt;br/&gt;Earth, then..."Forward toward Anu Alalu stepped, shouted, `Mastery of
&lt;br/&gt;Earth to me was allotted; that was the promise when the gold finds to
&lt;br/&gt;Nibiru I announced! Nor have I the claim to Nibiru's throne
&lt;br/&gt;forsaken.'" [Sitchin, Z., The Lost Book of Enki, page 93]
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Anu wrestled Alalu. They grappled. [Sitchin, The Wars of
&lt;br/&gt;Gods and Men, page 86] "Anu on the chest of Alalu with his foot
&lt;br/&gt;pressed down, victory in the wrestling thereby declaring, `I am
&lt;br/&gt;King'" But when Anu lifted his foot from Alalu, "swiftly he the
&lt;br/&gt;manhood of Anu bit off, the malehood of Anu Alalu did swallow.!"
&lt;br/&gt;[Sitchin, The Wars of Gods and Men, page 94]
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil tied Alalu up while Ea gave Anu first-aid. "Alalu," Anu
&lt;br/&gt;groaned, "will slowly die from my seed." Anu condemned the sickened
&lt;br/&gt;and doomed Alalu to spend his last days on Mars. The Nibirans knew
&lt;br/&gt;Alalu would die soon from biting Anu's penis. "There was apparently
&lt;br/&gt;something in the "flesh" of others that killed anyone who consumed
&lt;br/&gt;it." [Tellinger, M. 2006, Slave Species of god, page 438]
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;So Anu, on his return to Nibiru, dropped Alalu on Mars, with
&lt;br/&gt;food and tools. Anu also left Alalu's kinsman, Anzu--the
&lt;br/&gt;interplanetary pilot Ea had discharged--to tend Alalu as Alalu died
&lt;br/&gt;on Mars.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;NINMAH, ENROUTE TO EARTH, SAVED ANZU ON MARS, STARTS MARSBASE
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;When Anu arrived back on Nibiru, he told the Council his
&lt;br/&gt;plans for gold hunting throughout the solar system. He ordered
&lt;br/&gt;continuous freight rockets to and from Earth. ROCKETS WILL SHUTTLE
&lt;br/&gt;AMONG WAY-STATIONS ON MARS, EARTH'S MOON, other planets and
&lt;br/&gt;satellites between Nibiru and the sun.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;King Anu sent his daughter Ninmah with female health officers
&lt;br/&gt;to Earth. STOP, SAID THE KING, ON THE WAY, AT MARS. IF ANZU LIVES,
&lt;br/&gt;GIVE HIM MEN TO START A BASE THERE.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;On Mars Ninmah found Alalu and Anzu dead. It was too late
&lt;br/&gt;for the condemned Alalu, but Ninmah revived Anzu.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;To commemorate Alalu who discovered the gold that can save
&lt;br/&gt;Nibiru, Ninmah and Anzu, "The image of Alalu upon the great rock
&lt;br/&gt;mountain [CYNDONIA] with beams they carved. They showed him wearing
&lt;br/&gt;an eagle's helmet; his face they made uncovered." [Sitchin, Z., The
&lt;br/&gt;Lost Book of Enki, page 104].
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Before she left Mars for Earth, Ninmah gave Anzu twenty of
&lt;br/&gt;the astronauts from her company and ordered him to build the first
&lt;br/&gt;way station for the gold freighters.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil bred his lineage on Earth with his wife, Sud/Ninti.
&lt;br/&gt;Their sons together-- Nannar/sin and Ishkur/adad/teshub--reinforced
&lt;br/&gt;him and his eldest son, Ninurta (Enlil's illicit child with Ninmah)
&lt;br/&gt;in their struggles with the Enkiites.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;By some 400,000 years ago, Enlil had built seven Mission
&lt;br/&gt;Centers in Mesopotamia. The centers: Sippar the Spaceport; Nippur,
&lt;br/&gt;Mission Control; Badtibira, Metalurgical Center; Shurrupak, Med
&lt;br/&gt;Center.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Anzu, kinsman to the deposed and deceased King Alalu,
&lt;br/&gt;commanded 300 NIBIRANS ON MARS BASE and in the shuttle service. His
&lt;br/&gt;men, the Igigi, rocketed gold from Mesopotamia, where Enki's sea
&lt;br/&gt;vessels brought it from Africa. Anzu's men on Mars transferred the
&lt;br/&gt;gold to spaceships bound for Nibiru. On Nibiru, scientists powdered
&lt;br/&gt;the gold and seeded it into the air. "Slowly was the breach in the
&lt;br/&gt;heavens healing." [Sitchin, Z., 2002, The Lost Book of Enki, page
&lt;br/&gt;117]
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Igigi, led by Anzu, demanded Enlil grant them better
&lt;br/&gt;working conditions, more elixir from the fruit Ninmah grew and a rest
&lt;br/&gt;facility on Earth. King Anu beamed orders from Nibiru for Anzu to go
&lt;br/&gt;to Enlil on Earth. Enlil must, the King ordered, show Anzu the
&lt;br/&gt;entire mining operation so he'd understand why the Igigi must
&lt;br/&gt;persevere.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Anzu landed at Nippur, Enil's Capitol. Though Anu'd ordered
&lt;br/&gt;him to show his operations to Anzu, Enlil stalled. Enlil's father,
&lt;br/&gt;King Anu, had killed Anzu's kinsman, Alalu. Now Anzu incited the
&lt;br/&gt;Igigi. Enlil insisted he--not Anzu--gave orders to the Astronauts.
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil believed that he alone bossed the entire Earth operation; Anzu
&lt;br/&gt;and the astronauts must obey, not challenge him.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enki, however, persuaded Enlil to explain the gold mining,
&lt;br/&gt;refining and transport system to Anzu. Our father, King Anu, said
&lt;br/&gt;Enki, says to convince Anzu to keep his men on the job.* So Enlil
&lt;br/&gt;admitted Anzu to his chambers.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But when Enlil undressed and set down the key to his control
&lt;br/&gt;room, Anzu purloined the key. Anzu slipped into the control room and
&lt;br/&gt;stole the computer crystals that ran the spaceport and the astronaut
&lt;br/&gt;cities in Mesopotamia. Anzu forced Ea's pilot Abgal to take him to
&lt;br/&gt;the spaceport, Shu.ru.pak. There, Anzu's men declared him King of
&lt;br/&gt;Earth and Mars. Anzu shut down vital services at headquarters (Nibru-
&lt;br/&gt;ki) and cut communication between Earth and Nibiru.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Ninurta (Enlil and Ninmah's son) shot Anzu down in an
&lt;br/&gt;spectacular air battle. Ninurta then freed Abgal, captured Anzu and
&lt;br/&gt;retrieved the crystals.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Ninurta, Enlil's Eldest Son, "Foremost Warrior" brought Anzu
&lt;br/&gt;before Enlil [copied from Sitchin, Z., 1985, The Wars of Gods and
&lt;br/&gt;Men, page124--Drawing of cylinder seal VA/243, Berlin Museum]
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Seven Who Judge--Ea/Enki, Damkina/Ninki, Marduk/Ra,
&lt;br/&gt;Nannar/Sin, Enlil/Yawheh, Ninmah/Ninharsag and Ninurta--ordered Anzu
&lt;br/&gt;executed "with a killing ray." [Sitchin, Z., 1985, The Wars of Gods
&lt;br/&gt;and Men, page 99]
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Sitchin, in The 12th Planet [pages 107 -116] wrote that
&lt;br/&gt;Nannar, Enlil's Legal Heir ( (Enlil's first son by Sud/Ninti( his
&lt;br/&gt;legal spouse) directed Anzu's revolt. Nannar, with Anzu as his
&lt;br/&gt;agent, intended the revolt as a challenge to his half-brother Ninurta
&lt;br/&gt;(Enlil's Firstborn) for Command of Earth. Enlil therefore exiled
&lt;br/&gt;Nannar from Ur. Nonetheless, after Enlil's son Ninurta defeated the
&lt;br/&gt;Igigi and executed their leader, Anzu, all the Nibiran leaders--
&lt;br/&gt;including Nannar,--pledged to honor Ninurta as Enlil's successor on
&lt;br/&gt;Earth. Before, Ninurta was Enlil's successor only on Nibiru; Enlil's
&lt;br/&gt;successor on Earth had been Nannar, Enlil's son with Sud. [Sitchin,
&lt;br/&gt;Z., 1985, The Wars of Gods and Men, pages 95 -102].
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Ninurta, now Enlil's "Foremost Warrior," enforced Enlil's
&lt;br/&gt;rule over the entire system of gold extraction, processing, and
&lt;br/&gt;transportation to Nibiru.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;To make sure Ninurta's obeyed, Enlil gave him the IB
&lt;br/&gt;missile, "a weapon with fifty killing heads."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Marduk, however, sympathized with the Igigi complaint that
&lt;br/&gt;made them revolt–no R&amp;amp;R facilities on Earth, infrequent rotations
&lt;br/&gt;back to Nibiru, little elixir.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Marduk, Enlil ordered, to Mars take Anzu and there bury him
&lt;br/&gt;that the Igigi see it is I alone they must obey or die as did Anzu.
&lt;br/&gt;Improve conditions and boost morale there but let them see the wages
&lt;br/&gt;of rebellion. [Info from Sitchin, Z., 1985, The Wars of Gods and Men,
&lt;br/&gt;pages 95 -102; Lessin invented italicized dialogue].
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Each 3,600 year revolution of Nibiru to the region of Solaris
&lt;br/&gt;created ever more violent disturbances on Nibiru, the sun (huge solar
&lt;br/&gt;flares) Mars (Lahmu) and Earth. On Earth, Enki's son Nergal reported
&lt;br/&gt;from the south tip of Africa that the Antarctic ice sheet was sliding
&lt;br/&gt;to the ocean and would, next approach of Nibiru, slide into the sea
&lt;br/&gt;and cause wave reverberations that would engulf most of Earth.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Adamite and Adapite Hybrid Erectus/Nibiran Earthlings
&lt;br/&gt;were both part of a species Enki, Ningishzidda and Ninmah created in
&lt;br/&gt;violation of interplanetary law. Commander Enlil planned to let
&lt;br/&gt;these Earthlings drown when, next time Nibiru neared Earth and the
&lt;br/&gt;Antractic Icesheet would slip into the sea. The icesheet's immersion
&lt;br/&gt;in the South Sea would inundate all Earth except great peaks. Then,
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil calculated, the Nibiran gold-mining operations on Earth would
&lt;br/&gt;end and the Nibirans could return to Nibiru.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;King Anu and the Counsel on Nibiru beamed Earth: "'For
&lt;br/&gt;evacuating Earth and Lahmu prepare.' In the Abzu [Zimbabwe] the gold
&lt;br/&gt;mines shut down; therefrom the Anunnaki [colonists on Earth from
&lt;br/&gt;Nibiru] to the Edin came; ... smelting and refining ceased, all gold
&lt;br/&gt;to Nibiru was lofted. Empty, for evacuating ready, a fleet of
&lt;br/&gt;celestial chariots [interplanetary spaceships] to Earth returned."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Astronauts with Adapite wives and children, Enlil decreed,
&lt;br/&gt;must move to the peaks above wave level. When the deluge engulfed
&lt;br/&gt;Earth, repatriating colonists would rocket to Nibiru, Enki, Ninmah,
&lt;br/&gt;and I--as well as our sons, daughters and their descendants--will
&lt;br/&gt;orbit Earth till the Earthlings drown and the waters recede. MARDUK
&lt;br/&gt;WAS TO SHELTER ON MARSBASE; Enlil's son Nannar would wait out Earth's
&lt;br/&gt;flood on the moon. [Sitchin, Z., 2002, The Lost Book of Enki:230].
&lt;br/&gt;****
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I'd not be surprised if there were rocket fuel residues from
&lt;br/&gt;Nibirans' rockets. Percholate also can form itself naturally too, so
&lt;br/&gt;the percholate Phoenix found might not be from Nibiran rockets. Or
&lt;br/&gt;only some of it may be. Or the percholate finding might be an
&lt;br/&gt;error. Nonetheless, Sumerian records tell us of the Nibiran presence
&lt;br/&gt;and works on Mars both before and after it lost its atmosphere and
&lt;br/&gt;surface water. Does our government know lots more than it admits.
&lt;br/&gt;You bet.
&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Sasha (Alex)</dc:creator>
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  <entry>
    <title>Edgar Mitchell : "...I know for sure we're not alone... "</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Aloka</name>
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    <updated>2008-07-31T23:51:49Z</updated>
    <published>2008-07-31T23:51:49Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Online Joan d'Arc article entitled Official UFO Disclosure and Darwinian Evolution 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;at 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;www.ufodigest.com 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Please post far and wide. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Official UFO Disclosure and 
&lt;br/&gt;Darwinian Evolution 
&lt;br/&gt;by Joan d'Arc 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Posted: 14:30 July 24, 2008 - UPDATED: July 29, 2008 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;July 23, 2008 was an historic day! I awoke to hear on the Internet an astounding interview on Kerrang Radio (UK) with Astronaut Edgar Mitchell, who announced matter of factly, "yes, we have been visited." Did this sudden announcement signal the beginning of Official UFO Disclosure? I transcribed much of the conversation wherein Edgar Mitchell finally briefed us all. www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/6168/
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The radio announcer asked Dr. Mitchell, "Are we alone in the Universe?" to which he responded, "Oh, I know for sure we're not alone in the Universe." The radio announcer expressed his shock at this disclosure and wondered if Mitchell was "pulling his leg" with "astronaut humor." Mitchell assured him the Roswell crash was real, and a number of contacts are real and ongoing. "Why is it being covered up?" he asked. The U.S. chose to do this after World War II, explained Mitchell, but it's starting to open up now in the international press. Mitchell also discussed the Catholic Church's recent press releases that we are not alone in the Universe. He explained that the amount of covert attempts to cover-up and the amount of disinformation is decreasing. Mitchell stated, "there's more nonsense out there about this than is real, but it IS a real phenomenon. … Some of us are privileged enough to have been briefed on some of it." He stated, "We're not alone in the Universe. We have been visited." 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Dr. Mitchell went on to briefly discuss Roswell in 1947, saying he grew up in Roswell and it was a real extraterrestrial crash there. He admitted involvement in intelligence and military circles, and UFO committees and groups, and admitted it has been "well covered up in the past sixty years." He claimed there has been "quite a bit of contact" and that "contact is real and ongoing," but that he does not know where the visitors are from. He admitted to "back-engineering" of spacecraft, but claimed the "homegrown" vehicles "are not as sophisticated as what the visitors have." When asked if there will be an actual disclosure this year, Mitchell said there are serious organizations moving toward disclosure, and that it has already begun, since the Belgian, French, Brazilian and Mexican governments have opened their files and some British files were recently released. He indicated, "I think we're heading toward serious disclosure, but I can't say how fast." He said "public acceptance is increasing and disinformation seems to be decreasing." When asked "what will the reaction be?" he said it's "ho-hum so what's new?" and that "well over 70% of people accept it as fact." 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"Do others involved in the moon landings know about this?" Mitchell responded, "Some of them do." When asked if the visitor's intent is hostile or peaceful, Mitchell stated, "It's pretty obvious that if it were hostile we'd have been gone by now. Or could have been. We had no defense if that's what their real intent was." When asked what they look like, he claimed there to be many groups, but described only one of them, "You've seen some of the pictures … little people that look strange to us. … pretty accurate." Finally, when asked if he was worried for his own safety, Mitchell replied, "Oh no. They're not knocking anybody off for that anymore." 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Good News For Modern Man? 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Mitchell indicated that over 70 percent of people accept extraterrestrial visitation as fact. I find that number to be unbelievably large. He perhaps is referring to globally, not in the U.S. If true, I believe Mitchell underplays the reaction of the remaining 30 percent, who are in profound denial in an isolated, outback cosmos—namely the scientific "Darwinists." He underplays the effect on science—a "naturalist" paradigm unbelievably rigid in its fundamentalist and insular premise that "intelligent" life is Earth-based only. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Is Official UFO Disclosure good news for modern man? Well, it is and, then again, it isn't. The effect on Darwinian evolution will be profound. This is what the cover-up is and has been all about. After all science is not about flexibility but is about security; and the alarm for this potential breach in security was pushed by NASA in 1960, when it tasked the Brookings Institute to think through the implications of the possible discovery of artifacts on the moon or other planets on which we may land or send probes. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Brookings Study was concerned about the impact of extraterrestrial intelligence (ETI) on religion, but it also feared the impact on science. In part, the Brookings Study noted that "scientists and engineers might be the most devastated by the discovery of relatively superior creatures, since these professions are most clearly associated with mastery of nature." The study also noted, "Advanced understanding of nature might vitiate all our theories." 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Darwinian evolution epitomizes mankind's mastery over nature. Indeed, as I have noted in my book, Space Travelers and the Genesis of the Human Form, the evolution story dramatizes the "natural" transfiguration of mankind through a linear procession of metamorphoses that eventually separate him from the animals of his ancestry. Evolution is Western man's totem; essentially, it represents mastery over our own nature. Since the entire realm of modern biology and chemistry is based on the Darwinian paradigm, the discovery, or should I say, the official disclosure, of extraterrestrial intelligence would completely shatter the Darwinian mythology of humanity's accidental climb out of the muck of our local habitat Earth. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;From the perspective of Darwinian theory, mankind may be seen as the winner of a preposterous survival lottery which, we are told, given the incredible odds should not have occurred even once. Thus, if the humanoid form evolved from the great ape lineage on planet Earth, the mathematical odds are incredibly against the possibility of that same chain of random and incremental steps, contingent upon an interplay with a similar biological environment, occurring elsewhere in the Universe. Therefore, the assumptions of Darwinian evolution presuppose the humanoid form to be an entirely Earth-based phenomenon. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Darwinian evolution is a metaphysical genesis tale of life on Earth. In her book Evolution as a Religion, philosopher Mary Midgley argued that "evolution is not just an inert piece of theoretical science," but is also "a powerful folk tale about human origins." It must be pointed out that creationism and evolutionism have one main factor in agreement: they are both Earth-centric genesis tales. Both oppose the idea of intelligence at large in the Universe, including the idea of space travelers. In both theories, the Earth is the center of the Universe and WE are IT! 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;It must also be understood that the theory of evolution essentially views the human or humanoid form as merely an accident in a chain of accidents. For instance, Stephen Jay Gould argued that the evolution of the human form is not a "repeatable occurrence." In the Journal of British Interplanetary Society (1992), E.J. Coffey also argued that "the survivors resemble the winners of a lottery rather than creatures better designed than the unlucky majority who do not survive." 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;For quite the same reasons as above, British astronomer, Sir Fred Hoyle, proponent of the Modern Theory of Panspermia, mathematically dismissed the chance of Darwinian evolution being an actual occurrence, arguing that "even if the whole Universe consisted of organic soup ... the chance of producing merely the basic enzymes of life by random processes without intelligent direction would be about 1 over a 1 with 40,000 zeros after it; a probability too small to imagine." Hoyle concluded that "Darwinian evolution is most unlikely to get even one polypeptide sequence right, let alone the thousands on which living cells depend for survival." 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Given that there are trillions of different kinds of cells in the body, all in delicate balance with each other, each of these varied cellular structures would also have to develop by chance. In a Times-Advocate interview in December 1982, Hoyle declared that this mathematical impossibility is well known to scientists, yet nobody seems willing to "blow the whistle" on the absurdity of Darwinian theory. Hoyle claims "most scientists still cling to Darwinism because of its grip on the educational system," and because they don't want to be branded as "heretics." Let's hope this allegation is at least partially true. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Others have "done the math" as well. British molecular biologist Francis Crick, who received the 1962 Nobel Prize for the discovery of the double helix structure of DNA, wondered if we weren't from around here. After discovering the astonishingly huge and complex information storage capacity of the DNA molecule (humans have three billion coding letters in each nucleus), Crick could not imagine any conditions under which this information vehicle could have evolved from non-living chemicals. He argued that since the earth has too short a history for life to have developed here, it must have developed on another planet in a solar system several billion years older than ours. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Crick's aversion to religion led him and Leslie Orgel, in 1973, to put forth the theory of Directed Panspermia. To get around the idea of God, Crick proposed that the primordial seeds of life were shipped to earth in spaceships billions of years ago by intelligent beings. After proposing this idea, Crick was left in the predicament of explaining the origin of the ET beings, and finally had to acknowledge the paucity of the idea, saying, "Every time I write a paper on the origin of life, I swear I will never write another one, because there is too much speculation running after too few facts." (Life Itself, 1981) 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Although an atheist, Crick was quoted as saying, "An honest man, armed with the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense the origin of life appears to be almost a miracle." William Hamilton in his essay "Astrogenesis" suggests, "The real paradigm shift is to consider that the Universe is a life-producing nursery and that the genesis and evolution of life is not earth-centered but rather is distributed among the stars of the galaxies." 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In his book The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, Thomas Kuhn defines a scientific revolution as a "non-cumulative developmental episode" whereby an older paradigm is replaced in whole or in part by an "incompatible new one." Such scientific revolutions begin with a growing sense that "an existing paradigm has ceased to function adequately in the exploration of an aspect of nature." The emergence of new theories is usually preceded by a period of "pronounced professional insecurity," since it involves large-scale paradigm destruction. Kuhn explains, under normal rules a scientific theory "is declared invalid only if an alternative candidate is available to take its place." 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Unfortunately for them, academia and its inflexible materialist skeptics have persistently disallowed any alternative candidates from the Vitalist arena to impose on their Nature party: such as Lovelock and Margulis's Gaia Theory (in this case they made it conform to Naturalism before allowing a baby toe in); Rupert Sheldrake's Theory of Formative Causation (they absolutely spit on the idea of morphogenetic fields); Extraterrestrial theories such as Panspermia, Visitor Genetic Breeding or Planetary Seeding experiments ("little green men" anybody?); the mathematical theories of Intelligent Design ("Creationism in a cheap tuxedo"); and we all know where they stand on the "Super-natural" theory of Creationism (oh well, I say, if it walks like a duck). 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Many people I talk to are under the assumption that Darwinism is playfully malleable and open to their mishmash of supernatural ideas. I try to inform them that Darwinian evolution is an all-or-nothing theory; it will not allow inclusion of any Vitalist or Supra-natural process—or, goddess forbid, any anthropomorphism. It is very exacting on that rule. If you are espousing any form of Supernaturalism, you are clearly not a Darwinian. Perhaps you are a Vitalist. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The essential problem is, according to Kuhn, scientists cannot do research in the absence of a controlling and overarching (i.e., tightly closed and uncompromising) paradigm: in this case Naturalism (Materialism) as opposed to Supernaturalism (Vitalism). Under normal circumstances they do not and can not pull the floor out from under themselves by either switching paradigms or allowing an alternative toe in the door. But in the face of Official UFO Disclosure, the door will be blown out for them. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Extraterrestrial space travelers and Darwinian evolution are incompatible! Do not underestimate the reaction from the fundamentalist Scientism camp: the discovery of Extraterrestrial Intelligence, and specifically of the extraterrestrial humanoid form, blows Earth-centric evolutionary biology straight out of the water! 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;BAM! SPLASH! HIGH AND DRY! 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"Pronounced professional insecurity" does not even begin to describe what unbending Darwinists will go through under Official UFO Disclosure, should it actually occur. The Catholic Church has already announced its acceptance of extraterrestrial beinghood. Science has not. It will not be the followers of fundamentalist religions but the followers of rigid, unyielding Scientism who will be in the herd of lemmings headed straight for the edge of the cliff. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Joan d'Arc is the author of Space Travelers and the Genesis of the Human Form, and Phenomenal World, published by The Book Tree (www.thebooktree.com"). She is the co-publisher of Paranoia: The Conspiracy Reader (www.paranoiamagazine.com) and is the founder of the website "BIPED: Beings for Intelligent Purpose in Evolutionary Design" (www.biped.info). She is also the founder of HunterGatheress Journal (www.huntergatheress.com). 
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&lt;br/&gt;Mainstream U.K. newspaper article about the interview:
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1037471/Apollo-14-astronaut-claims-aliens-HAVE-contact--covered-60-years.html&lt;/div&gt;
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    <title>The Deluge's Coming Again by Sasha Lessin, Ph.D.</title>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;The Deluge's Coming Again by Sasha Lessin, Ph.D.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;THE ANTARCTIC ICESHEET'S ABOUT TO CREATE ANOTHER NOAH-LEVEL FLOOD
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I read in Jean Hudon's site (Veracity Series #22: Telling It As It
&lt;br/&gt;Is!,(13 July 2008) archived at
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.earthrainbownetwork.com/Archives2008/Veracity22.htm)
&lt;br/&gt;that "the Antarctic ice shelf collapse 'imminent'
&lt;br/&gt;Scientists are warning that an Antarctic ice shelf the size of
&lt;br/&gt;Northern Ireland is on the verge of disintegration, even though it is
&lt;br/&gt;now the middle of the southern hemisphere's winter. The European
&lt;br/&gt;Space Agency says new satellite pictures show that the Wilkins shelf- the largest to be threatened so far - is "hanging by its last
&lt;br/&gt;thread". Extending for approximately 5,600 square miles, it has been
&lt;br/&gt;held in place by a thin ice bridge connecting it to an island, but
&lt;br/&gt;this is now fracturing. The shelf, which lies near the base of the
&lt;br/&gt;Antarctic Peninsula, had not been expected to collapse until the
&lt;br/&gt;early 2020s. It provides further evidence that the planet is warming
&lt;br/&gt;more quickly than predicted. Scientists are stunned that it is
&lt;br/&gt;continuing to melt in the depths of winter, and believe that warm
&lt;br/&gt;water is welling up from the ocean to attack it from underneath. So
&lt;br/&gt;far seven shelves on the peninsula have collapsed due to climate
&lt;br/&gt;change. On Friday, President Bush - who last week told the G8
&lt;br/&gt;summit "Goodbye from the world's greatest polluter" - defied a 2007
&lt;br/&gt;ruling by the US Supreme Court to take action on global warming under
&lt;br/&gt;the Clean Air Act."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;This, of course, happened before, 13,000 years ago, as Ziasudra's
&lt;br/&gt;(Noah's)Flood and has the same cause: the perigee (part of Nibiru's
&lt;br/&gt;3,6000 year orbit around our sun that's closest to the sun) of Nibiru
&lt;br/&gt;(the 10th planet in our solar system). The current perigee of
&lt;br/&gt;Nibiru, due in 2012 if orbit's remained constant or 2050 if the orbit
&lt;br/&gt;was slowed in 10,900 B.C.E., when Nibiru arrived earlier, due to
&lt;br/&gt;increasing drift from Solaris of Uranus. Uranus' gravity sped
&lt;br/&gt;Nibiru's orbit. As a result of this close encounter between Nibiru
&lt;br/&gt;and Uranus, one of Nibiru's moons, Miranda, was captured by and
&lt;br/&gt;became a moon of Uranus as Nibiru and Uranus pulled at each other.
&lt;br/&gt;From 10,000B.C.E. on, Nibiru's revolution sped to 3.450 Earth years;
&lt;br/&gt;which makes Nibiru's next return 2900A.D. rather than 2012 as
&lt;br/&gt;predicated on the earlier 3600-year orbit [Sitchin, Z., 2007, The End
&lt;br/&gt;of Days, pages 315 - 317].
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Whatever the actual precise perigee of Nibiru, the decades
&lt;br/&gt;surrounding Nibiru's return to the inner solar system, it can,
&lt;br/&gt;depending on where the other inner-solar system planets are in their
&lt;br/&gt;obits, create solar storms, global warming, ice ages and floods. As
&lt;br/&gt;Enki puts it, "The past the future shall be."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;THE ANTARCTIC ICESHEET'S ABOUT TO CREATE ANOTHER NOAH-LEVEL FLOOD
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Here's what happened last deluge:
&lt;br/&gt;Drought, plague and starvation stalked the Earthlings [Sitchin, Z.,
&lt;br/&gt;2002, The Lost Book of Enki:204 -205].  Enki and Ninmah proposed
&lt;br/&gt;teaching Earthlings medicine for plague, sea-fishing as well as pond-
&lt;br/&gt;and canal-building for drought and famine. But Enlil (Yahweh) still
&lt;br/&gt;seethed at Enki for creating the Earthling hybrids.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil also raged at Enki's son Marduk, Marduk, who aggressively
&lt;br/&gt;recruited followers from the hybrid line descended from the daughters
&lt;br/&gt;of Adapa (the child of Enki with a hybrid Homo Erectus, Homo Sapiens
&lt;br/&gt;beauty). Igigi (astronauts) had abducted more hybid women at
&lt;br/&gt;Marduk's wedding to the Earthling Sarpanit. The pure Nibiran genes
&lt;br/&gt;the astronauts added to the most-Nibiran-like genomes of Adapa's
&lt;br/&gt;daughters made their progeny among the healthiest, strongest,
&lt;br/&gt;smartest and longest-lived of the Earthling hybrids, hence
&lt;br/&gt;potentially Marduk's best followers.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Marduk conditioned this hybrid population to serve him for the time
&lt;br/&gt;when he and the astronauts who had taken hybrid women must remain on
&lt;br/&gt;Earth, the time when enough gold had been sent to Nibiru to shield
&lt;br/&gt;the homeplanet's atmosphere and the other Nibirans would return
&lt;br/&gt;home.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil, to thwart Marduk, forbade any Anunnaki help Earthlings. Let
&lt;br/&gt;the Earthlings by hunger and pestilence perish, decreed Enlil. He
&lt;br/&gt;forbade Enki from giving the desperate Earthlings access to ocean
&lt;br/&gt;fishing.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Earthlings at Shurubak, where Ziusudra lived under Enki's and
&lt;br/&gt;Ninmah's tutilage, sent Ziusudra to Enki at Edin for help. Enki
&lt;br/&gt;suggested the Earthlings protest Enlil's anti-Earthling policy and
&lt;br/&gt;boycott worship of and service to their Nibiran lords. He said,
&lt;br/&gt;however, he couldn't openly ignore Enlil's order and help the
&lt;br/&gt;Earthlings. 
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;Covertly, Enki fed Earthlings from his corn stores. He trained them
&lt;br/&gt;in ocean fishing and gave them access--disobeying Enlil-- to the
&lt;br/&gt;seas. When Enlil accused Enki of defying him, Enki lied, said he
&lt;br/&gt;didn't know the Earthlings were fishing the seas.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Frustrated, Enlil planned for the final destruction of Earthlings and
&lt;br/&gt;the end to Nibiran occupation of Earth [Sitchin, Z., 2002, The Lost
&lt;br/&gt;Book of Enki: 206; 1978, The 12th Planet, pages 292 -294]. 
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;ENLIL ORDERS DEATH TO EARTHLINGS IN PREDICTED DELUGE
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Each 3,600 year return of Nibiru to the Inner Solar System created
&lt;br/&gt;more violent disturbances on Nibiru, on the sun (huge solar flares)
&lt;br/&gt;on Mars (Lahmu) and on Earth.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;On Earth, Enki's son Nergal reported from the south tip of Africa
&lt;br/&gt;that next time Nibiru nears the Sun, the Antarctic Icesheet will
&lt;br/&gt;slide into the sea and launch waves that will engulf most of Earth.
&lt;br/&gt;King Anu and the Counsel on Nibiru beamed Earth: "'For evacuating
&lt;br/&gt;Earth and Lahmu prepare.' In the Abzu [Zimbabwe] the gold mines shut
&lt;br/&gt;down; therefrom the Anunnaki [colonists on Earth from Nibiru] to the
&lt;br/&gt;Edin came; ... smelting and refining ceased, all gold to Nibiru was
&lt;br/&gt;lofted. Empty, for evacuating ready, a fleet of celestial chariots
&lt;br/&gt;[interplanetary spaceships] to Earth returned."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;THE EMISSARY COMES TO EARTH
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;One spaceship brought the mysterious white-haired Galzu (Great
&lt;br/&gt;Knower) with a sealed message from Anu to Enki, Enlil and Ninmah
&lt;br/&gt;"Enlil the seal of Anu examined; unbroken and authentic it was, its
&lt;br/&gt;encoding trustworthy. 'For King and Council Galzu speaks. his words
&lt;br/&gt;are my commands.' So did the message of Anu state. 'I am Galzu,
&lt;br/&gt;Emissary Plenipoteniary of King and Council, to Enlil,'" said the
&lt;br/&gt;mysterious visitor.  [Sitchin, Z., 2002, The Lost Book of Enki: 208]. 
&lt;br/&gt;Plenipoteniary Galzu summonsed Enlil's elder sister and brother,
&lt;br/&gt;Ninmah and Enki. Galzu told Ninmah, "'Of the same school and age we
&lt;br/&gt;are.' This Ninmah could not recall: the emissary was as young as a
&lt;br/&gt;son, she was as his olden mother." Galzu told Ninmah she'd aged and
&lt;br/&gt;he hadn't because she'd been so long on Earth. She and her brothers
&lt;br/&gt;had been on Earth so long that they'd die if they returned to Nibiru,
&lt;br/&gt;where their bodies could not survive the homeplanet's netforce. 
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;"The three of you on Earth will remain; only to die to Nibiru you
&lt;br/&gt;will return." Ninmah and her brothers must orbit Earth in their
&lt;br/&gt;rockets when the antarctic icesheet slipped into the ocean and waves
&lt;br/&gt;washed over the planet. When the waters calmed, the Leaders were to
&lt;br/&gt;return to Earth, the only place they could survive.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;King Anu's order continued, "To each of the other Anunnaki, a choice
&lt;br/&gt;to leave or the calamity outwait must be given. The Igigi
&lt;br/&gt;[astronauts] who Earthlings espoused must between departure and
&lt;br/&gt;spouses choose. No Earthling, Marduk's Sarpanit included, to Nibiru
&lt;br/&gt;to journey is allowed. For all who stay and what happens see, in
&lt;br/&gt;celestial chariots they safety must seek." [Sitchin, Z., 2002, The
&lt;br/&gt;Lost Book of Enki: 209 - 211]. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil convened the Anunnaki Council, which consisted of the Leaders'
&lt;br/&gt;sons and grandchildren and the Igigi commanders. He said he decided
&lt;br/&gt;the Earthlings must drown in the deluge.  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enki protested, "'A wonderous Being by us was created, by us saved it
&lt;br/&gt;must be,' Enki to Enlil shouted."  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil roared back,"'To Primitive Workers you gave to them knowing you
&lt;br/&gt;endowed. The powers of the Creator of All into your hands you have
&lt;br/&gt;taken. With fornication Adapa you conceived , Understanding to his
&lt;br/&gt;line you gave. His offspring to the heavens you have taken, our
&lt;br/&gt;wisdom with them you shared. Every rule you have broken, decisions
&lt;br/&gt;and commands you ignored. Because of you a Civilized Earthling
&lt;br/&gt;brother [Abael] a brother [Ka-in] murdered. Because of Marduk your
&lt;br/&gt;son the Igigi like him with Earthlings intermarried.'"  
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil demanded Enki and all Nibirans on Earth swear not to tell the
&lt;br/&gt;Earthlings of the impending inundation. Enki refused to sign; he and
&lt;br/&gt;Marduk stamped out of the Council. But Enki hestated to openly defy
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil, who, after all, had drawn command of Earth Mission  [Sitchin,
&lt;br/&gt;Z., 2002, The Lost Book of Enki: 212 -214]. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil brought the Council back to order. Astronauts with Adapite
&lt;br/&gt;wives and children, he decreed, must move to the peaks above wave
&lt;br/&gt;level. When the deluge engulfs Earth, repatriating colonists must
&lt;br/&gt;rocket to Nibiru. Enki, Ninmah, and I--as well as our sons,
&lt;br/&gt;daughters and their descendants--will orbit Earth till the Earthlings
&lt;br/&gt;drown and the waters recede. Marduk was to shelter on Marsbase;
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil's son Nannar would wait out Earth's flood on the
&lt;br/&gt;moon.  [Sitchin, Z., 2002, The Lost Book of Enki: 230]. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enki and Ninmah buried their records and computer programs deep in
&lt;br/&gt;the Iraqi soil. They prepared genetic banks of Earth's creatures to
&lt;br/&gt;save from coming flood. "Male and female essences and life-eggs they
&lt;br/&gt;collected, of each kind two by two ... they collected for safekeeping
&lt;br/&gt;while in Earth circuit to be taken, thereafter the living kinds to
&lt;br/&gt;recombine. The day of the deluge they waited." [Sitchin, Z., 2002,
&lt;br/&gt;The Lost Book of Enki: 216]. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enki dreamed Galzu spoke "'Into your hands Fate take, for the
&lt;br/&gt;Earthlings the Earth inherit. Summon your son Ziusudra, without
&lt;br/&gt;breaking the oath [swearing not to tell humans] to him the coming
&lt;br/&gt;calamity reveal. A boat that the watery avalanche can withstand, a
&lt;br/&gt;submersible one, to build him tell, the likes of which on this tablet
&lt;br/&gt;to you I am showing. Let him in it save himself and his kinfolk and
&lt;br/&gt;the seed of all that is useful, be it plant or animal, also take.
&lt;br/&gt;That is the will of the Creator of All.'"
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enki woke and pondered his dream. He stepped out of bed and kicked an
&lt;br/&gt;actual tablet-- where none had been before he slept--next to his bed.
&lt;br/&gt;He searched his home and grounds for Galzu but Galzu was not there,
&lt;br/&gt;nor had anyone seen him, except Enki, in the dream. The appearance of
&lt;br/&gt;the tablet--a physical object--following a dream or trance encounter
&lt;br/&gt;with a representative of a higher power--Galzu in this instance-- is
&lt;br/&gt;what Sitchin calls a Twightlight Zone miracle.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"That night to the reed hut where Ziusudra was sleeping Enki
&lt;br/&gt;stealthily went. The oath not breaking, the lord Enki not to Ziusudra
&lt;br/&gt;but to the hut's wall [computer bank?] spoke from behind the reed
&lt;br/&gt;wall.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;When Ziusudra by the words was awakened, to him Enki said, "Reed hut,
&lt;br/&gt;a calamitous storm will sweep, the destruction of Mankind it will be.
&lt;br/&gt;This is the decision of the assembly by Enlil convened. "
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Galzu tells Enki (depicted with his snake icon) to warn Ziasudra
&lt;br/&gt;(touching the "wall"--probably a computer bank, depicted with Xs
&lt;br/&gt;across the screens and slots for programs) of the Flood. Galzu guides
&lt;br/&gt;Enki's arm to convey tablet (possibly a computer or holo disk. The
&lt;br/&gt;disk is shown leaving Enki's hand en route to Ziasudra's computer)
&lt;br/&gt; [See http://enkispeaks.com/Essays/22GalzuHelpsEnkiSaveEarthlings.htm
&lt;br/&gt;for drawing from Sitchin, Z., 2002, The Lost Book of Enki: page 194,
&lt;br/&gt;but interpretation mine.]
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enki continued, " 'Abandon thy house, Ziusudra and build a boat. Its
&lt;br/&gt;design and measurements on a tablet....A boatguide [Enki's son,
&lt;br/&gt;Ninagal] to you will come. To a safe haven the boatguide will
&lt;br/&gt;navigate you. By you shall the seed of Civilized Man survive. Not to
&lt;br/&gt;you Ziusudra, have I spoken, but to the reed wall did I speak.'"
&lt;br/&gt;[Sitchin, Z., 2002, The Lost Book of Enki: 220 -222]
&lt;br/&gt;13,000 years ago, around 10,900 B.C. E., "in the Whiteland, at the
&lt;br/&gt;Earth's bottom, off its foundation, the [Antarctic] icesheet slipped.
&lt;br/&gt;By Nibiru's netforce it was pulled into the south sea. A tidal wave
&lt;br/&gt;arose, northward spreading.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"The boat of Ziusudra the tidal wave from its moorings lifted. Though
&lt;br/&gt;completely submerged, not a drop of water into it did enter. For
&lt;br/&gt;forty days, waves and storms swept Earth, downing everything on the
&lt;br/&gt;planet except those on mountaintops and in Ziusudra's boat" [Sitchin,
&lt;br/&gt;Z., 2002, The Lost Book of Enki, page 227].
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Surfacing, Ninagal raised sail and steered to Mt Arrata, where
&lt;br/&gt;Ziusudra built a huge fire as a signal and roasted lamb as an
&lt;br/&gt;offering to Enki. Enki and Enlil descended in helicopters
&lt;br/&gt;(Whirlwinds) from their rocketships.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"When Enlil the survivors saw, Ningal among them, "`Every Earthling
&lt;br/&gt;had to perish', he with fury shouted'; at Enki with anger he lunged,
&lt;br/&gt;to kill his brother with bare hands he was ready." Ningal radioed
&lt;br/&gt;Ninmah and Ninurta to bring their copters down quick.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"`He is no mere mortal, my son he is,' Enki to Ziusudra pointing. `To
&lt;br/&gt;a reed wall I spoke, not Ziusudra.'"
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enki, joined by Ninmah and Ninurta, revealed his dream vision. He
&lt;br/&gt;told Enlil of the instructions and tablet Galzu gave him.
&lt;br/&gt;Together, Enki, Ninurta and Nimah convinced Enlil "The survival of
&lt;br/&gt;mankind the will of the Creator of All must be." [Sitchin, Z., 2002,
&lt;br/&gt;The Lost Book of Enki: abridged from pages 228 - 229].
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The flood waters from the Deluge, 13,000 years ago, receded; they
&lt;br/&gt;left the uplands intact. The waters had totally carried away the
&lt;br/&gt;Nibiran settlements and buried Mesopotamia and African goldmines
&lt;br/&gt;under silt and mud. "All that the Anunnaki had built in the past
&lt;br/&gt;432,000 years was wiped off the face of the Earth or buried under
&lt;br/&gt;miles thick layers of mud. [Sitchin, Z., The Cosmic Code, p 54] Of
&lt;br/&gt;the Anunnaki settlements, only the raised stone Landing Place at
&lt;br/&gt;Baalbek, Lebanon, was intact; their spaceport at Sippar was totally
&lt;br/&gt;gone.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;NIBIRU'S PERIGEE 13,OOO YEARS AGO BURIES MESOPOTAMIA &amp;amp; SUCKS OFF
&lt;br/&gt;MARS' ATMOSPHERE AND SURFACE WATER
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil summonsed to the Landing Place the Nibirans who survived the
&lt;br/&gt;flood on the Earth's peaks and the astronauts in spacecraft orbiting
&lt;br/&gt;the planet. He also called in his son Nannar from his refuge on the
&lt;br/&gt;Moon and called in Enki's son Marduk from his refuge on Mars.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Marduk reported: "Lahmu [Mars] by the passage of Nibiru was
&lt;br/&gt;devastated. Its atmosphere was sucked out, its waters evaporated, a
&lt;br/&gt;place of dust storms it is."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Nannar reported the moon was now only usable with Eagle Masks
&lt;br/&gt;[helmets].
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;ANUNNAKI REPLENISH EARTH'S CROPS AND LIVESTOCK
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enki opened the vault under the Lebanon Landing Platform. He
&lt;br/&gt;unlocked diorite chests and recovered the grainseeds Nibiru'd sent
&lt;br/&gt;Earth.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Commander Enlil had Ninurta create an irrigation system for
&lt;br/&gt;Mesopotamia. Eathlings would build the system to water the grain.
&lt;br/&gt;Earthlings would grow wheat for bread. The Commander ordered
&lt;br/&gt;Ziasudra's son direct the workers for Ninurta. Before they planted,
&lt;br/&gt;moreover, Enki enhanced the grain. He doubled, tripled and then
&lt;br/&gt;quadrupled its chromosomes. [Sitchin, Z., 1985 The Wars of Gods &amp;amp;
&lt;br/&gt;Men, page124].
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil sent his youngest son, Adad, to survey fruit trees that
&lt;br/&gt;survived the flood. As he surveyed, Adad found the grapes, grapes
&lt;br/&gt;Ninmah'd brought from Nibiru. Earthlings could again make wine, both
&lt;br/&gt;white and red.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enki's son Ninagal, who'd piloted Ziusudra's submersible, revealed
&lt;br/&gt;the genetic starts Enki and Ninmah had stowed aboard. Ninagal
&lt;br/&gt;said, "The life essences and life eggs, in the four-legged animals
&lt;br/&gt;from Ziusudra's boat can be combined. Sheep for wool and meat will
&lt;br/&gt;multiply, cattle for milk and hides will all have." [Sitchin, Z.,
&lt;br/&gt;2002, The Lost Book of Enki, pages 229 - 234] Enki bade his son
&lt;br/&gt;Dumuzi (helped by Ziusudra's middle son) shepherd the livestock. 
&lt;br/&gt;Enki and Ninagal engineered a system of dams and sluices to regulate
&lt;br/&gt;the Nile to create a pastureland for Dumuzi's herds.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Enlil chose the Saudi Arabian Peninsula for a new interplanetary
&lt;br/&gt;freighter rocket terminal site to ferry the gold to the homeplanet.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The passage of Nibiru through the Inner Solar system not only damaged
&lt;br/&gt;Earth and Mars; it also ripped away the shield of gold dust around
&lt;br/&gt;the planet Nibiru, gold the astronauts had struggled for millennia to
&lt;br/&gt;ship to the mother planet. Nibiru's atmosphere again dwindled. The
&lt;br/&gt;mother planet desperately needed Earth's gold. Just when the Nibiran
&lt;br/&gt;on Earth were ready to leave the planet forever, to leave Earthling
&lt;br/&gt;slaves to drown and maroon Marduk and the pesky Igigi who'd bred with
&lt;br/&gt;Earthlings on the innundated planet [Tellinger calls the offspring of
&lt;br/&gt;Igigi and Earthlings "Aryans" [Tellinger, M., Slave Species of god,
&lt;br/&gt;page 116]. Nibirans' mining enterprise on Earth needed to restart.
&lt;br/&gt;They needed more Earthlings and they needed more gold–quickly.
&lt;br/&gt;But mud covered the African mines. The hundreds of Nibiran miners
&lt;br/&gt;had repatriated to Nibiru. The thousands of Hybrid Earthling miners
&lt;br/&gt;had drowned. The gold refinery at Bad-Tibira had washed away.
&lt;br/&gt;Waters had swept away the rocket terminal at Sippar in Mesopotamia.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <title>Aliens, Etheric Life &amp;amp; Energies</title>
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    <updated>2008-06-11T19:47:44Z</updated>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I started a tribe, "Aliens, Etheric Life &amp;amp; Energies" tribe, that some of you may be interested in. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;This is a supportive &amp;amp; safe place to learn &amp;amp; discuss our experiences &amp;amp; knowledge in the area of astral energies and life. How this affects our mind, body, soul &amp;amp; the universe we live in. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://tribes.tribe.net/etheric_life 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Thanks, 
&lt;br/&gt;mia &lt;/div&gt;
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    <title>Astronauts from Nibiru Engineer Us Hybrid Earthling Slaves: Review of Sitchin So Far Sasha Lessin, Ph. D.</title>
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      <name>Sasha (Alex)</name>
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    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/f5934e4d-86f8-4e00-9ff7-81ae4acaef3d</id>
    <updated>2008-05-22T14:43:45Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-22T14:43:45Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Astronauts from Nibiru Engineer Us Hybrid Earthling Slaves: Review of Sitchin So Far
&lt;br/&gt;Sasha Lessin, Ph. D. sashalessinphd@aol.com
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;	Zecharia Sitchin's revolutionary proofs of the history of our solar system and on hybridization experiments on Earth focuses on the period 500,000 years ago until 2023 B.C.. His proofs have profound implications for us all. Sitchin’s facts can end the stranglehold of Earth’s present matrix. He exposes the mindset that governments, religions, establishment scientists, slavers and corporations perpetrate by denying our true origins. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;	Sitchin, Michael Cremo and Michael Tellinger say stories and physical evidence which establishment scientists dismiss (evidence from non-Darwinists, from ancient civilizations and from contemporary cultures) can be posited as hypotheses that can be tested.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;	Sitchin cites archeological records of an atmospheric crisis  445, 000 years ago on the planet Nibiru, our solar system's far-orbiting tenth planet, inhabited by long-lived modern humans. The noble Enki, 600 miners and 300 shuttle crewmen rocketed to Earth for gold to shield Nibiru’s air. They found ample gold in Africa.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;	300,000 years ago, Enki responded a problem he created to get a response so he could offer a solution, a solution he thought practical and erotic as well. He staged a mutiny of the miners in Africa. His solution to the mutiny: genetically alter Homo Erectus, a local primate, into hybrid Earthlings--Homo Neanderthalensis and Homo Sapiens-- to mine and refine gold. Expedition officers taught the slaves also to raise crops for themselves and the expedition's working complexes in Mesopotamia.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;	After the Deluge, 13,000 years ago, the masters had their Earthlings build cities in Sumer. The masters bade their slaves address them as “gods”. The so-called gods lived in luxury in ziggurat castles next to their aircraft hangars. The gods managed their Earthlings through priest-kings--hybrid descendants of one of Enki’s Earthling lovers.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;	The gods taught Earthlings information and skills so they could best serve the gods, their needs and the expedition's mining mission--skills in astronomy, mathematics, agriculture, herding, writing, architecture and geology. Several gods dictated memoirs to slave scribes, their personal slants on the formation of the Solar System, history on Nibiru, the Expedition to Earth, the Flood, and the god’s take on current events.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;	As gods divided into competing lineages of Enki’s descendants versus the descendants of his half-brother Enlil, the gods taught Earthlings the skills and mind-set of genocidal war, violence, slaving and defoliation. Each god insisted on unquestioning obedience to him or her. Each god demanded his or her slaves hate and fight opponent gods’ kings and their slaves.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;	Some Earthlings escaped into the hinterlands, away from the gods’ wars. No more would they be fodder not only for spears, arrows, then chariots. They’d escape also terrible technological killing devices of the gods: explosives, lasers, gas and biological agents. In 2023 B.C. wars of the gods climaxed in thermonuclear genocide of Earthlings in Canaan and Mesopotamia. The unexpected fallout from the nuking prompted the gods to scatter over or exit Earth.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;	Records Nibirans and their agents left us offer impeccable evidence that extraterrestrials settled Earth. The evidence includes stone-carved star charts that map Neptune, Uranus, Pluto--three planets beyond eye-range from Earth. Maps chart rocket routes through our solar system. The Nibiran-dictated maps feature accurate geographical details of the entire Earth. This mapping could only have been done from space. The maps show the landmass under the Antarctic icesheet. The astronauts were able to map Antarctic land after 11,000 B.C., because the sheet had slid into the Ocean, caused the Deluge and drowned most of their Earthlings.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;	Our science confirms the records the gods dictated to their hybrid scribes. We have verified and continue to verify the Nibiran goldminers' genetic, metallurgical, geological, scientific, mathematic, astronomical accounts. In our museums and hinterland caves earthlings have drawn Sumerian rocketships, helicopter-like whirlbirds and flying saucers. Modern biology validates Sumerian engravings of Enki splicing double helix DNA to create an Earthling worker. Our science still hasn't deciphered how the gods moved giant rocks better than we can to build their navigational landmarks--the Giza pyramids, monuments on our moon, Mars and on Mars' moon, Phobos.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;	With Sitchin's evidence we free ourselves to create a new paradigm, a paradigm unfettered by the"godspell". Godspell is philosopher Neal Freer's word for the yearning of Earthlings for the return of their Lords. Our yearning for such "divine" lead created religions which mandate murder of millions for their particular gods. And the gods, remember, are merely long-lived, technologically advanced humans with a wide range of individual quirks and a hierarchic, largely patriarchal, warlike culture. They were, by and large, obsessed with genealogical precedence and male superiority. Most gods were petty, murderous slavers, contemptuous of Earthlings' consciousness. And genetically we're half Nibiran, with their genetic propensity to violence, greed and murderous competition. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;	Our other half, the Homo Erectus in us--the hominid the Nibirans altered--resonates with Gaia, this planet. Homo Erectus was probably a species devolved from earlier Homo Sapiens Sapiens settlement of our planet, millions of years before [Cremo, M. and Thompson, R., Forbidden Archeology: The Hidden History of the Human Race, Cremo, M., 2003, Human Devolution: A Vedic Alternative to Darwin’s Theory] Our Gaia aspect cooperates more than our Nibiran aspect. When we know and balance both within us, we break the godspell, become peers rather than servants of the gods.  We and they evolve together to support, encouragement, love and celebration of consciousness and its manifestations.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <title>Is Nibiru Coming?</title>
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      <name>Gary</name>
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    <updated>2008-05-18T22:51:23Z</updated>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Is Nibiru Coming? If You Want To Know What I Am Talking About Check It Out On My Site paranormalconspiracymagazine.com I am looking for any information I can get, if anyone as seen it by eye or telescope in the southern pole area please e-mail me with what you know at I would be very grateful for any genuine information! Thanx Crusaderpcm.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The powers that be are building underground bunkers all over the world for the selected few they pick to survive Nibiru coming. Nibiru is a planet that is part of or galaxy but as Earth takes 365 days in its orbit Nibiru takes 3600  years. It as pass by earth many times before, once it struck earth and caused devastating damage to the planet. It also cause the extinction of the dinosaurs when it passed very close to earth and caused an ice age. It is due to pass through again in 2012. Its arrival as already started to alter Earths weather. It can already be seen in the south pole where the U.S have set up a large telescope to track its approach. But you won't see it by sight until the end of 2010 when of course it will be denied. But by the beginning of 2012 it will be hard to hide the fact of its approach. Basically if you have watched a film called Deep Impact then that is what will happen. So if you are not one of the chosen one you are stuffed and expected to go quietly into the night. Personally I going to use the well know motto hope for the best plan for the worst. Me and my loved ones are going to survive this because I'm preparing for the worst are you?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <title>The Nibiruan Council Fact, Fiction or Prophets for Profit!</title>
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      <name>Cybornian3rdIgAtO</name>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Interesting to say the least...I myself don't resonate with the Nibiruan Council, simply because in my studies and research on the matter it doesn't seem to fit and add up with what's 'real truth'. Still,  cheaper than Scientology for some. :D
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Peace! 
&lt;br/&gt;-------------
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Nibiruan Council Fact, Fiction or Prophets for Profit!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;By Colleen Johnston © 2004
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;The walk-ins Jehowah and Jelaila Starr
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; Something happened to Joscelyn Kelley back in 1992 she had a spiritual awakening.  Joscelyn became a walk-in Starseed called Jelaila.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Jocylene supposedly left her body and supposedly had a change occur within her. She claims to be a walk-in named Jelaila who took possession of Mrs. Kelley a dozen years ago and then the walk-in Jelaila married fellow Nibiruan  ‘walk-in’ Jehowah (Jonathan) Starr.  Mrs. Starr claims she became aware of her ‘walk-in’ in December of 1995. In January of 1997 she was ‘trained’ as a galactic messenger and founded The Nibiruan Council, named after the 12th planet of the solar system, she believes is Nibiru. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The ‘walk-in’ tale of Jelaila is so outlandish – but I will briefly describe it to you here. According to the Nibiruan website, when Joscelyn stepped aside – Jelaila rushed in to take her place. This walk-in occurred as Jocylene lay passed out in an abortion clinic after terminating her 4-week unwanted pregnancy.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Jelaila claims she has contact with Joscelyn who is currently residing on Nibru (with or without a body?) and Mrs. Kelly visits her via channelings or dream state. Joscelyn also had a daughter who was left in the care of Jelaila.  She, the walk-in, has the same fondness for cats, even same type of cats – and believes she is from a cat race of beings called 9D meaning 9th dimensional Felines. Jonathan is from a (AKA Jehowah) supposedly is a 9D reptilian being. A 9D feline called Devin guides Jelaila allegedly and is her brother in the 9th dimensional realms.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Jelaila Starr heads a alien identity based group and channels information from Galactic Federation’s Nibiruan Council. There may be some truth to this concerning channeling groups – as I detail it in my upcoming book, but the probability exists that there is a great deal ego as well as alien involved – just not what the entities are claiming to be. (See details at http://www.survivingthefall.net).
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Her ideologies are also similar to Anna Hayes (AKA Ashayana Deanne, AKA Anna Gruber) as well as Laura Knight Jadczyk and Carol Pate (AKA The Jeweled Orb) as well and other Starseed based alien contact groups with either a positive or apocalyptic message.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Nibiruan Council center is headquartered in Kansas City, MO and the beliefs are hardly separable from the cookie cutter cultdom ideologies of the afore with the exception that the Starr’s claim to be a ‘for profit business’ and not a non-profit religious group. For profit is an understatement. She also is a minister and I am sure uses her religious belief as a scapegoat to hide behind in case of lawsuits from former members. Their business is selling the Nibiruan Starseed fantasy for a great deal of profit.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;It’s expensive to become a Nibiruan Starseed
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;It costs a great deal of money to become apart of this exclusive group – with initial ‘ Are you a Nibiruan - Starseed type readings‘ with session prices ranging at 125.00 an hour with Jelaila and 100.00 an hour with Jonathan. Even if it takes only a few minutes to find out if you are a special Starseed (I am sure they’ll claim indeed YOU are, if you’ve paid the cash) you will pay the hour price. They both claim to be Remote viewers and psychically gifted but request that you send (along with payment) a list of questions PRIOR to the supposedly psychic session. It’s promised that questions will not be delved into before session time) this is where you have a session with either Starr to decide. It is called the  ‘General Counseling Session’. This is the first step in the counseling work offered by the alleged Nibiruan Council. In this session you are supposed to discover whom you are, where you came from, your life purpose, and how to get to the next step on your spiritual path etc. Chances are, you’ll be told you’ve got a ‘life blueprint ‘ to become a Nibiruan Councilor[1]
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&lt;br/&gt;Then a potential Nibiruan recruit must pay about 2300.00 plus dollars and up to become a Nibiruan Councilor. Initially there are mini sessions done in groups, which usually are a basic live infomercial for the Starr’s goods, workshops and that cost 20.00 to 40.00 dollars. These sessions last for around one to one and a half hours and the Nibiruan dream is discussed. Jelaila Starr, according to one former member, is very charismatic in her introduction to Nibiruan lifestyle and is well versed in the power of persuasion. She discusses information about Starseeds and her readings, workshops and becoming a ‘Galactic Human’.
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&lt;br/&gt; Sold at these events, are books, tapes, vitamin supplements, colon cleanse kits and other pricey kits that you must buy for additional cost if you decide that you are a Starseed and have a ‘Life Blueprint’ reading from either Starr. The tapes range from 9.95, videos at 19.95 and kits ranging form 20.00 to 799.00 dollars. By the time you learn if you are a Starseed[2] and become a “Galactic Councilor Apprentice[3]’ you could very well pay a few thousand dollars, this doesn’t include travel expenses and conference offerings which Starseeds are expected to pay! You are also expected to buy and sell the products…BEWARE. This is nothing more than a money
&lt;br/&gt;making pyramid scam thoughtfully laid out by the Starr’s!  Councilors are all over the country from coastline to coastline and occasionally the Starrs recruit at mind, body, spirit and psychic fairs[4].
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&lt;br/&gt;In the workshops the Starr’s use very common as well as normal psychological traits to separate the Starseed, walk-in from the regular Joe. Star-trek type of terminologies are used as well as egos are stroked in the attempt to convince the recruit they are indeed Starseeds and need to learn further via the Starr’s workshops. At least in the beginning these classes sound attractive to the recruit. Recently I have gotten information from a few former members who’ve claimed that these empowerment sessions of becoming a Galactic Councilor[5] is misleading and pricey as well as mentally degrading and depressing. The prospective GC must sign an agreement before attending classes. Techniques are used to badger and degrade the prospect – such as calling people  ‘On the Carpet’ that results in a tearing down of the ego to shreds, which is a common a mind control technique used by various groups to break the will and then reprogram the prospect. The goal is to tear down the ego and then to employ the group mindset in place of the prospects own thoughts and feelings, especially objections the new  NCA might have. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Does This Mumbo-jumbo sound familiar? Then BEWARE!
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&lt;br/&gt;Now, looking into the group’s philosophies, they are familiar with Zachariah Sitchin’s books (the five books of The Earth Chronicles Series) and writings, and literal star trek terminologies. It is almost verbatim of Sitchin’s Theories including mankind’s origins, the12th planet Nibru and a good and evil duel among galactic races which many UFO type of groups use. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Furthermore, Mrs. Starr claims to be uncomplicated teacher when in fact the terminology is very complicated, hard to follow and more science fiction based than fact. It is nothing more than complicated rhetoric and some fast double-talking dealing with stargates, dark stars and bad alien’s verses the good ones. She also promotes her Galactic Councilor classes, readings as prerequisites so be prepared to shell out a few hundred dollars beforehand. GC’s think they are becoming councilors when in fact they are becoming apprentices and are used (I might add at their own expense according to one member) to assist in the sale of the Starr’s tapes, books, and other materials at various conferences and teaching events.
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&lt;br/&gt;There seems to be a perpetual ‘carrot’ dangled in front of students and prospective members until large sums of monies are paid for learning, According to ex members, they are put through emotional hell to either submit to the teaching or walk away WITHOUT a refund of course!  Once the ‘on the carpet’ session starts the Apprentice has already signed a Mentor/Apprentice Agreement[6], which consists of a multiple page contract - If they walk away, it’s without the monies.
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&lt;br/&gt;Below gives an idea of costs are this is only an estimate and doesn’t include hotels, airfare, food or other out of pocket expenses.
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&lt;br/&gt;Prerequisites to becoming a GC
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&lt;br/&gt;Costs rounded to the nearest dollar
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&lt;br/&gt;1. Person must have galactic level counselor on your Life Blueprint ( I have Session Tape costs 10.00 via either Mr. or Mrs. Starr’s ‘readings’. I also noted that on the website a 16.00 price was added for session tapes. $135.00
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&lt;br/&gt;2. Person must read, “We are the Nibiruans.” $18.00
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&lt;br/&gt;3. Person must have begun the Accelerated DNA Recoding Process. $ 10.00
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&lt;br/&gt;4. Person must have read the “DNA Update Booklet”, and the “DNA Chart Booklet.” $20.00
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&lt;br/&gt;5. Person must have listened to tapes, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 16, 19, and 26, and watched Video 10. $129.00
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&lt;br/&gt;6. Person must have completed a Nibiruan Councilor colon and liver cleanse. (How to booklet added at 4.00) $52.00
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&lt;br/&gt;7. Person must read and been using the Keys of Compassion for at least 1 month. $47.00
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&lt;br/&gt;8. Person must have completed 1 DNA Recoding/Emotional Clearing workshop. $599.00
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&lt;br/&gt;9. Person must have read and agreed in writing by email with the Galactic Counselor Workshop agreements (site claims it will be sent to you by email before final payment is due). ???
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&lt;br/&gt;10. Taking all GC level 1-4 workshops $799.00
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&lt;br/&gt;11. GC refresher sessions $399.00
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&lt;br/&gt;Total Costs ( not including other expenses) $2208.00
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&lt;br/&gt;Refresher classes are mandatory for GC’s at 399.00 are taken once councilor status is reached.  And many NC’s are required to be at special training sessions at their expense and to attend events regardless of cost.
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&lt;br/&gt;One former member told me that she’d invested around 4,000 only to be disillusioned and confused by her Nibiruan experience as well as emotionally beat up at one of the ‘on the carpet’ sessions. This doesn’t include the expenses of attending conferences, hotel fees, purchasing Nibiruan materials to resell, food and other expenses. The NCA only nets a 30% of goods sold. It’s ever quite enough to make up for the monies they put out, another member told me.
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&lt;br/&gt;Workshops, Teachings and the Starrs Articles
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&lt;br/&gt;Articles run the believer in circles clearly stating that none of the ‘event’s’ predicted by Nostradamus, and other noted intuitive people have not come to pass. I have found by reading the articles that they will often contradict other information written about. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Example: An ascension article written in 1999 firmly states that we are ascending and who we can tell
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&lt;br/&gt;In a 1999 article she claims that because California hasn’t suffered a massive earthquake or other predictions have not come true, including Comet Lee, (in an earlier article the Nibiruans are preparing earthlings for the impact) that was supposed to signify a thumbs up for humanity because bad events had passed without much fanfare. In her interpretation Comet Lee was the ‘King Of Terror’ [7]discussed by Nostradamus[8] dealing with a quatrain [9], from the 10 century that was supposed to pummel earth.
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&lt;br/&gt;The Quatrain has been debated from all sides as to it's meaning Here it is in both French and English translations and I am more inclined to believe it may deal with the September 11th event:
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&lt;br/&gt;French:
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&lt;br/&gt;L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois
&lt;br/&gt;Du ciel viendra vn grand Roy d'effrayeur
&lt;br/&gt;Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angolmois,
&lt;br/&gt;Auant apres Mars regner par bon heur.
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&lt;br/&gt;English tranlation:
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&lt;br/&gt;The year 1999 and seven (some interpretations say nine) months,
&lt;br/&gt;From the sky will come a great King of Terror:
&lt;br/&gt;To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
&lt;br/&gt;Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.
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&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;She goes on to indicate that earth was indeed out of the woods from these events. In a latter article dealing with the September 11, 2001 incidents, she states, that people need to use this event as a wake up call and that there were events to be faced both positive and negative.
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&lt;br/&gt;In my opinion meaning (and noting she was backtracking from an earlier 1999 statement) that bad things do happen – instead of just good things.  She goes on to further say that there are supposedly two sides of ascension a dark side and not just a thumb’s up version. This is a direct dichotomy from the 1999 revelations of events that she claims were squashed by human kind’s ascension and acceptance in the Galactic Federation of Worlds.
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&lt;br/&gt;Then, after a rather dark dream scenario, dealing with Sept.11th attack on the USA in 2001, she relates, that the next attack will be of a much larger event and will force us into accepting the “chip” – meaning an implanted detection devise under the skin. This in Jelaila opinion is concluding step in their (meaning the Bush administration) plan. She concludes that this device will enslave everyone and will be used to control the mind. I do note that she is ultra careful NOT to list dates. That way she’s not trapped when others question her validity.
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&lt;br/&gt;You can read for yourself all articles pertaining to the above at http://www.nibiruancouncil.com
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&lt;br/&gt;So which is it, are we ascending peacefully into the universe and melding with our Nibiruan brotherhood or are we experiencing valid events due to global warming, evil people,  cyclic changes and major pollution to our planets ecosystem that the Federation has missed? Are these galactic messengers so mixed up and confused? In another area Jelaila, the walk-in, claims to be scattered, disorganized, clumsy and then states she appreciate Jocelyn's ability to be organized - BUT my question is, if the deposed Mrs. Kelly is on Nibru and NOT in HER body, then how can Joscelyn do this for Jelaila?
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&lt;br/&gt;Since 1999 in fact we have had a major terrorist attack against the United States (possibly relating to the ‘King of Terror’ quatrain, and we’ve also had unusual sun anomalies such as a solar polar flip, along with major solar storms. Earth has experienced extreme weather events, such as record flooding all over the USA and the world as well. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Science has recently discovered that the magnetic poles are indeed shifting with iron ore magma building up under Africa. (See article written by a reporter from Australia below): http://www.maar.us/news_articles/news_magnetic_pole_shift.html
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&lt;br/&gt;This is not psychic prediction (which by the way, I have nothing against as I believe everyone has intuitive abilities) – but solid science. In 1995 there was a meeting of the worlds top scientist stating at the Global Warming Conference that the cause and affect of what we’ve done to the planet will reap disastrous events starting within the next decade and it has! Sure - we all want a happy outcome to events – but the fact remains that the earth goes through cycles like everything else. We are in a cycle that changes the planet and enhanced by the use of fossil fuels and pollutants by factories as well as the rape and pillaging of major rain forest areas.  Check out the website below as you’ll find plenty of science backed dilemmas from the EPA’s government website! You don’t need a Nibiruan to tell you that!
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&lt;br/&gt;http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwarming.nsf/content/resourcecenterpublications.html
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&lt;br/&gt;I have repeatedly found that channeled information in ANY form is unreliable and either falsified by the channel or a demonic entity and possibly an alien entity connected itself to the channel’s ego and body and they are using the channel.  These are insidious creatures that will use the energies of a group the channel well as those involved in the channels group to empower itself within our dimensional reality and to eventually manifest in the medium who’s doing the channeling FULL TIME. Not a possession, but an eventual actual takeover.  They feed from it.
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&lt;br/&gt;If you insist on being part of ANY group, first watch the group for a while.  Please ask the leadership you’d like to speak with former members, etc who’ve taken workshops and ask them why they are no longer part of the group. If they are no longer involved as the leader why. As why such supposedly free universal information costs so much to hear or learn about. Also do background checks on these leaders. Once you are involved it’s very hard to walk away if the supposed teachers are manipulating your life and using mind control. It can take YEARS of therapy to recover if you’re badgered enough.
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&lt;br/&gt;Look at a group’s structure; here are questions you should ask that should raise red flags if a straight answer isn’t given:
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&lt;br/&gt;1. Are they a pyramidal type of leadership with information coming from the top people? 
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&lt;br/&gt;2. Are you asked to sell Groups products by putting up monies beforehand; buying slightly discounted items without having the ability to earn a fair and balanced return, hourly income or a salary?
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&lt;br/&gt;3. Are you required to take one pricey workshop after another and shamed told something like’ it’s your spiritual duty, etc or made to feel bad when you can’t afford to do so?
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&lt;br/&gt;4. Are the workshops structured to reprogram your own thinking, i.e., with titles like, emotional cleansing, Starseed reprogramming, getting rid of ore old self, finding your inner child, etc?
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&lt;br/&gt;5. Are workshops several days in length at a wilderness or some type of conference retreat? (This in itself is a danger as skilled leaders will set up a several day session, using other group members as well to reprogram your thinking)
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&lt;br/&gt;6. Are you required to place the group before your family duties, your own needs such as attending REQUIRED daily or weekly meetings without question, conference events even if you cannot afford attending or paying for conference trips etc?
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&lt;br/&gt;7. Are you made to feel bad by leadership or other group members if you ask questions that involve leadership’s teachings or if you find contrary behaviors that are opposed to teachings and you question them?
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&lt;br/&gt;8. Are there sessions that are designed to tear down emotions, using guilt, shame, psychological tools used to pull you apart then supposedly  put you back together again.
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&lt;br/&gt;Answer YES to any the above is an indication the group, leadership is up to no good. The sad part to all this is, people are taken advantage of – cults are formed and some people will possibly die as a result of channeled information.
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&lt;br/&gt;As benign as Nibiruan group seems – there is an innocuous undercurrent that pulls down and feeds off the psyche of the recruited members, according to several former affiliates.  I cannot say this enough, it’s better to learn information on your own terms that to get involved with a channel and his or her group.  Listen to red flags – be suspicious of this type of information! Jelaila claims to be a compassionate teacher – where is the compassion when she mentally degrades a person with her, 'on the Carpet’ sessions?
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&lt;br/&gt;It’s better to pass this group up – if you ever see them at a fair or conference event. You don’t have to learn the hard way – ever!
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&lt;br/&gt;[1]  Nibiruan Councilor - To become part of the Nibiruan society and to help others learn if they are Starseeds, etc.
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&lt;br/&gt;[2] Starseed – Supposedly unusual symptoms that indicate that a person is not from earth. Actual ‘symptoms’ are common place physical, emotional or intellectual things that  normal people who are conscious have.
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&lt;br/&gt;[3] Galactic Councilor Apprentice – a class taught by the Starrs as well as the Starrs protégées.  Supposedly teaching others to become councilors to work with people, do readings and sell the Starr’s materials.
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&lt;br/&gt;[4] Psychic Fair – A gathering of New Age items, products, and psychic consultations. Usually hosted by a group. The fair will offer short workshops to visitors from some of the readers. They are usually held in small conference areas.
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&lt;br/&gt;[5] Galactic Councilor – Trained person to teach the GC course to prospective recruits. A Galactic Counselor is someone with a contract on his or her ‘Life Blueprint’ to provide galactic-level counseling. This can only be seen by the Starr’s or trained councilors and the GC’s mission is to do work in the spiritual realms. According to the Starr’s website, they are trained to go beyond human selves in order to work in the galactic realms where most guides and Starseed parents are found. They also are trained to supposedly assist clients to reprogram their DNA.
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&lt;br/&gt;[6] Mentor/Apprentice Agreement – A 11 plus page document that is sprung on Nibiruan Councilor Apprentices dealing with rules, and legal documents that relieve Starr of ANY wrongdoing BEFORE training has begun.
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&lt;br/&gt;[7] King of Terror – a prediction from Nostradamus from one of his quatrains. See MAAR earth changes, prophecy section. Many believe this King of Terror – represents Al Quida and Ben Laudin and the attacks on the United States. Other notables are that it may represent a future attack by China or North Korea with backing from Russia.
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&lt;br/&gt;[8] Nostradamus – a 15th century famous prophet born in France who wrote about the worlds coming events many claim that are coming to pass today
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&lt;br/&gt;[9] Quatrain – A stanza or poem of four lines.
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.maar.us/nibiruan_council.html&lt;/div&gt;
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  <entry>
    <title>Planet-X Resurfaces</title>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2101
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&lt;br/&gt;Some are saying it is Nibiru... I am not so sure do to the size, 2/3 the size of Earth instead of 4x it's size... But I am sure if we start looking hard and in new 'directions' we will find a lot more planets and planetoids... hence the new definition... otherwise the Kuiper Belt would have increased the number in our solar system to 22+ planets with sever hundred to be discovered in potentiality...  &lt;/div&gt;
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  <entry>
    <title>Neil Freer</title>
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    <updated>2008-04-13T02:00:33Z</updated>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Anybody read his works?  I think he's insightful and intellectually daring!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.neilfreer.com/
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&lt;br/&gt;'If I am right, if, you will find here a literal rethinking of this planet;  a comprehensive, robust and startling new worldview of who and what we are; the ramifications of the restoration of our  true history as a genetically engineered species; a resolution of the creationist-evolutionist conflict;  a clear view of the forward trajectory of our species' real evolution. In short, the focus of this site is on a new view of planetary reality at a fundamental level far more profound than the usual political, religious, historical, intellectual concepts in which we think  ----- and conflict. 
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&lt;br/&gt;"You will find here a vision of the generic human beyond religion, Darwin's quaint view of evolution,  the recycled explanations and  failed solutions of millennia past, and the old new age. You will find hope, positive direction, progress, talk of immortality, the new human, and  a view from 2100 A.D. of where our species' realevolution could, should, will take us within the next 100 years. You will find yourself, here, Sapiens, rising, perhaps a bit dazed, now coming out of species adolescence, eager and  ready  for alien society. The largest focus is  Universe.  The immediate focus is on the children: we must not lose one more generation of our best to our primitive follies."
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.neilfreer.com/SRPAGE9.html#BTG1&lt;/div&gt;
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    <title>There are discussions in aliens.tribe which you might find interesresting</title>
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    <updated>2008-04-10T09:38:33Z</updated>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;There are discussions in aliens.tribe which you might find interesresting&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-10T09:38:03Z</dc:date>
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    <title>There are discussions in aliens.tribe which you might find intersting</title>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hello,
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&lt;br/&gt;There are discussions in aliens.tribe which you might find intersting
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&lt;br/&gt;Love - tron&lt;/div&gt;
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  <entry>
    <title>Hi, Everybody</title>
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      <name>Maggie</name>
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    <updated>2008-04-05T16:48:33Z</updated>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I'm new here.  Has anyone here read books by V.S. Ferguson or Barbara Hand Clow that reference the Niburians?  I think they are my favorite authors on the subject.  
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    <dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-03-25T01:00:58Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Check this out let me know If you like.</title>
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    <author>
      <name>freedomman</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/41a929e0-79b1-4f44-be22-0b50bcd7a518</id>
    <updated>2008-03-03T17:12:55Z</updated>
    <published>2008-02-22T17:57:54Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;www.iboplus.com/40577765&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>freedomman</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-02-22T17:57:54Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Nibiru and M.O.L.</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Lee</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/10fdfacc-cc51-4f09-a6ec-cea4b52254fe</id>
    <updated>2008-02-11T21:16:59Z</updated>
    <published>2008-02-11T19:09:03Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;This is what i know about Nibiru and the meaning of life, http://wakeup.to/themeaningoflife just wrote what i can prove for now.
&lt;br/&gt;Its always been my understanding that we were created from the DNA of 12 different aliens and their cultures instilled within us, does anyone know any more about it ?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-02-11T19:09:03Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>PETITION OF GREAT URGENCY TO THE STAR NATIONS!</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Tranquility777</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/148692f1-8fd0-46b0-aca7-0b775191f819</id>
    <updated>2008-02-11T02:39:37Z</updated>
    <published>2008-02-11T02:39:37Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;.Hi everyone. Please check this out and sign the petition.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f59PfbuOSQ
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Love and Blessings,
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Zohreh&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-02-11T02:39:37Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Zacharia a Reptilian?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>tron-ee</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/f7c16af3-13fa-4e2a-8898-c456c41e1e18</id>
    <updated>2008-01-29T23:50:51Z</updated>
    <published>2007-08-11T02:54:46Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;The remaining tall people on Earth have much of the original gene-splice from which the Homo-Saurians were engineered. ?Is Zecharia Sitchin a Reptile? I must admit it, YES...and so are YOU!!! It is believed that ALL Humans are Reptilian descendants, as the Nibiruians are Dragons...aka Reptilians and guess what?  They think they OWN us, and guess what else? They are coming back!!! ~2012 through 2017. How do I know they are returning you might ask?  Well, in the Rigveda, written in the oldest extant language known to Humankind (lots of academic wrangling about this point), is a story (thought throughout history to be a myth), about a 10th planet of the Sol solar system. This planet is called as "Nibiru". The story goes on to describe this planet as belonging not only to the Earthian solar system but also to another solar system. The planet you see is a binary-transitor, meaning that it circum-navigates two suns, ours and another. The transit period described in the Rigveda is 26,000 years which by various schemes of calculation (Prof Robert Boulay, historian, NSA Cryptographer and 17 years resident instructor at the National Cryptography School for the National Security Agency, very smart guy and author of, "Dragons and Flying Serpents, History of Human Reptilian Ancestry"), as well as Dr. Andrei Solenkov, (post language Homo-Sapien anthropologist, Soviet Institute for Advanced Studies), and (a few) others, believe the transit terminus to be around 2012-2017.  Other ancient literature seems to indicate that the Dragons were the creators of Humankind in Gan Edin (Hebrew..beleived to be an extant Dragon language), and that Nibiru, remains within easy space-craft range of Sol for around five years. During its transit, through Earth's solar system (around our star), the planet, distorts magnetic as well as gravitic fields. The magnetic fields cause all sorts of unpleasantness for Earthians, while the gravitic field causes SPACE TIME DISTORTIONS commensurate with the descriptions of the LAST visit through our system and is thought to be described in the Bible (aka sections of the QBLA in HBRW) as the "Apocalypse". SPD could well explain the experiences of the past binary-transitor survivors...Atlanteans who moved into Arabia, those who survived the periodic pole-shift. The Egyptians believed that the Dragons originated (as delineated from the Egyptian Book of the Dead) on Serius A in the Draco Star System (Serius A is where the negative agendae Reptilians originate, and Serius B is believed to be the source of the positive agendae Reptilians and the source of the Masonic +RC Ascension MRQBA literature). This latter information is taught in certain Mystical White Brotherhood training literature....oops time is marching on, gotta go.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Love
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;walt w.
&lt;br/&gt;Reptilian A attack survivor.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>tron-ee</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-08-11T02:54:46Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Our God image,or real DaVinchi code</title>
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    <author>
      <name>vic</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/ca846ffb-a4ac-433d-84ad-b5f570a30dcd</id>
    <updated>2008-01-23T22:27:21Z</updated>
    <published>2008-01-10T07:26:14Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;http://www.mirrorandart.com/videos_intro.php&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>vic</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-01-10T07:26:14Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>"33.33=2,012 =Mount Hermon in Phoenicia</title>
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    <author>
      <name>vic</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/d0ab047e-2446-40f3-9baa-525929b2dde6</id>
    <updated>2008-01-11T01:30:43Z</updated>
    <published>2008-01-11T01:30:43Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;"33.33 degrees of the great circle of the earth represents 2,012 nautical miles. Mount Hermon in Phoenicia, the first location of extraterrestrial influence upon man, lies precisely at 33.33 degrees north and 33.33 degrees east; 2,012 miles from the equator and 2,012 miles from the Paris meridian…"&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>vic</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-01-11T01:30:43Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Yes,Sitchin is an Annunaki!</title>
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    <author>
      <name>vic</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/f3171902-029d-43b0-9a16-2981174ed8df</id>
    <updated>2008-01-09T11:11:56Z</updated>
    <published>2008-01-09T11:11:56Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/TheAnunnaki.html
&lt;br/&gt;It is these horrible beings, the Anunnaki, that Sitchin has written an apology for. Reading Sitchin’s material, he has painted these evil aliens as palatably as possible by presenting the story that they are trying to save their own planet, and leaves the readers to believe that after that is accomplished, they would leave without a trace, so to speak. But, the Anunnaki came here to conquer and enslave, not for any worthy purpose whatsoever, nor will they leave voluntarily.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/TheAnunnaki.html&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>vic</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-01-09T11:11:56Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>shapeshifting</title>
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    <author>
      <name>tron-ee</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/2ede4fed-0b0b-4b94-9e51-a29e5552c7b0</id>
    <updated>2008-01-01T05:37:23Z</updated>
    <published>2007-10-26T06:22:38Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hmmm....
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;&gt;anything remotely shapeshifting in origin
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I at one time saw a black form which appeared as a two dimensional shadow, move across my living room, scared the shit out of me, and then it entered my glass sliding door, turned left and walked (I could see its 'Human' like form) directly down the middle of the wall. It looked something like a hand moving inside or against sheer silk, one can see the form but not the object. That's what I call shape-shifting. Or maybe reality bending?  Either way, Colm Kelleher writes of similar observations he and (my friend) Eric Davis (Ph.D. physics) both of NIDS witnessed at the Sherman Ranch in Neveda while studying the paranormal / suspected ET phenomenon there. In Colm's book, the "Hunt for the Skin Walker".  I highly recommend yall to read it.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Love
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;tron
&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>tron-ee</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-10-26T06:22:38Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Some Planet X videos + links</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/5d31598e-0392-4ddb-8bae-12a829f4cf48" />
    <author>
      <name>Sunnely ۞</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/5d31598e-0392-4ddb-8bae-12a829f4cf48</id>
    <updated>2007-12-30T18:04:28Z</updated>
    <published>2007-12-30T16:36:10Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Documentary on Planet X (Nibiru).
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Surviving Planet X Part 1 
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSgoZWOBdxg
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Part 2
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeRex27Z9YU
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Part 3
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsz9UhbwbQQ
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Part 4
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXF91I8BFNg
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Credits from this video to Marshall Masters, 
&lt;br/&gt;you can find more from this great man at http://www.planetxforecast.com and http://www.yowusa.com. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Take care Spacecowboys ; )
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
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&lt;br/&gt;
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    <dc:date>2007-12-30T16:36:10Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Help! Dreams Intense Awake 2 til 4 “The Awakening”?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Gary</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/71ebfce0-3cc2-42ab-ade9-0816c0012fe9</id>
    <updated>2007-12-30T00:41:11Z</updated>
    <published>2007-11-20T21:53:41Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;For months now my dreams have become really intense, and I find myself awake between 2 and 4 every night. I have heard this is a part of the spiritual awakening we are all about to feel. As anyone else had the same thing happening to them. Or can anyone tell me any more about this please. I think something is trying to show me the future and its freaking me out. I am seeing things I couldn’t make up if I tried. If I see a UFO appear when I’m awake I don’t know if I’ll jump for joy or die! Also why can I see two Sun’s in my dreams and a big blue planet, this is weird too. I’m rather going completely mad or the some really weird shit about to happen to the world!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-11-20T21:53:41Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Summaries of Sitchin's Works, Freer's &amp;amp; Tellinger's Commentaries</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Sasha (Alex)</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/d28ff0ed-7a08-4634-b623-581c2b843bae</id>
    <updated>2007-11-18T18:34:51Z</updated>
    <published>2007-11-18T18:34:51Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Summaries of Sitchin's Works, Freer's &amp;amp; Tellinger's Commentaries
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Aloha:
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I put a summary of much of Sitchin's works at a MySpace Sitchin info
&lt;br/&gt;and discussion group which I invite you to join. It's under History
&lt;br/&gt;and its url's below
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Group URL: http://groups.myspace.com/sitchindiscussin
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Hope to see you there and read your comments and especially,
&lt;br/&gt;alternate interpretations of the implications of Sitchin's work.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA)
&lt;br/&gt;http://groups.myspace.com/sitchindiscussin&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Sasha (Alex)</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-11-18T18:34:51Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>*==========&gt;WTF&amp;amp;lt;==========*</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Gary</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/f144c97f-25ed-4bfe-945f-4a19f8034c9a</id>
    <updated>2007-11-12T12:10:13Z</updated>
    <published>2007-11-12T12:10:13Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I'll sing myself to sleep 
&lt;br/&gt;A song from the darkest hour
&lt;br/&gt;Secrets I can't keep
&lt;br/&gt;Inside of the day
&lt;br/&gt;Swing from high to deep
&lt;br/&gt;Extremes of sweet and sour
&lt;br/&gt;Hope that God exists
&lt;br/&gt;I hope I pray
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Those who feel the breath of sadness
&lt;br/&gt;Sit down next to me
&lt;br/&gt;Those who find they're touched by madness
&lt;br/&gt;Sit down next to me
&lt;br/&gt;Those who find themselves ridiculous
&lt;br/&gt;Sit down next to me
&lt;br/&gt;Love, in fear, in hate, in tears
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Drawn by the undertow
&lt;br/&gt;My life is out of control
&lt;br/&gt;I believe this wave will bear my weight
&lt;br/&gt;So let it flow
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;It say’s it in the bible and is long over due. Sitchin predicts it and its long over due. Nostradamus predicts it and its now over due. The Jehovah’s Witness say it will come soon. The Mayan calendar the most accurate calendar, the one that all calendars are based on, also predicts it on the 21/12/12. The evidence is written on Pyramid and Tome wall’s all over the world. The return of an heavenly body known as the wing disk, Armageddon , the horned devil and Nibiru to name but a few of the names that appear and are referred to in documents and religious scripts all over the world. 
&lt;br/&gt;A rogue planet that as be passing through our solar system for four hundred and fifty thousand years. It caused the extinction of the dinosaurs, Noah’s flood and brought with it a race of people called the Anunnaki. Who supposedly don’t exist, but Microsoft Word as just recognised and capitalised automatically for me. The evidence is out there and stacked pretty high Could this bring the end of the world as we know it?
&lt;br/&gt;The first world war was Known as the mother of all wars, the war to end all wars. Millions were killed and for what reason, no one ever really knew. Whatever it was I am sure it could of be settled over a cup of tea. In stead of the global elite used it as an excuse to perform a cull. Sending young men to certain death over the trenches.
&lt;br/&gt;Then after the war to end all wars. There came another war a mere twenty or more years later. A power crazed man we are led to believe wanted to take over the world, and ethnically cleanse it as he was doing it. Him and him alone we are supposed to believe is responsible. Or was it another cull and money laundering process at the cost of  a few more million lives. Only the global elite know, and you don’t know who they are because they haven’t and never had the balls to let you know who they are.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;Now yet again we are at the point were to global economy’s are failing and war and global chaos is starting to take over. The world  is over populated and the global elite are losing their control. Do they just give up and go quietly into the night. Well they haven’t done before and they won’t do now without one hell of a fight. They used to control the masses with the fear of God, but that as now failed.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;They had to think of something else, something that would cause fear because with fear comes control. A tried and tested formula that worked for amongst  others the Romans, the terrorist threat. It’s easy, stage big event blame it on terrorists. Then go to war with all said nations you don’t like, rape and pillage in the name of justice and you’ll be ok. People are like sheep and wil not notice. Until it is too late and their all chipped and pinned, and watched every where they go in the name of so called security against terrorists. If you want to achieve this though, it might be an idea to weed out all those who don’t deserve to live in the so called New World Order. Maybe start WW3, or set off a few nukes or chemical weapons. You can always blame them on the terrorists the public will believe you. The odd few will realise what you are doing, and maybe post and bitch about it on the internet. But you can easily make out their crazy or even employ people to be little them all over the internet. It’s easy people are like sheep easily lead and told to believe the mass truth from an early age. If you believe what Sitchin say’s it’s even written in are DNA to act dumb and not ask questions. 
&lt;br/&gt;Hey I should of said at the start I don’t expect you to believe any of the above live it, but don’t believe it. Please do what  you have done all your life and wait until it jumps up and kicks you in your face. Because you have always got the tried and tested excuse “ well no one told me that was going to happen” or an even better one “what the fuck”. 
&lt;br/&gt;Whatever you want to believe and it’s all about beliefs or so I am told. The evidence is out there. If Nibiru is coming and that’s why the worlds weather is going more severe by the day. Or the global elite are plan a cull in one way or another to achieve New World Order. Whatever you think I would like to know. I have my own Forum at www.yourvoiceforum.co.uk . If your not a drone, sheep or lemming please tell me what you think!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Some people might say my life is in a rut,
&lt;br/&gt;But I'm quite happy with what I got
&lt;br/&gt;People might say that I should strive for more,
&lt;br/&gt;But I'm so happy I can't see the point.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Somethings happening here today
&lt;br/&gt;A show of strength with your boy's brigade and,
&lt;br/&gt;I'm so happy and you're so kind
&lt;br/&gt;You want more money - of course I don't mind
&lt;br/&gt;To buy nuclear textbooks for atomic crimes
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And the public gets what the public wants
&lt;br/&gt;But I want nothing this society's got -
&lt;br/&gt;I'm going underground, (going underground)
&lt;br/&gt;Well the brass bands play and feet start to pound
&lt;br/&gt;Going underground, (going underground)
&lt;br/&gt;Well let the boys all sing and the boys all shout for tomorrow
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Some people might get some pleasure out of hate
&lt;br/&gt;Me, I've enough already on my plate
&lt;br/&gt;People might need some tension to relax
&lt;br/&gt;Mem, I'm too busy dodging between the flak
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;What you see is what you get
&lt;br/&gt;You've made your bed, you better lie in it
&lt;br/&gt;You choose your leaders and place your trust
&lt;br/&gt;As their lies wash you down and their promises rust
&lt;br/&gt;You'll see kidney machines replaced by rockets and guns
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And the public wants what the public gets
&lt;br/&gt;But I don't get what this society wants
&lt;br/&gt;I'm going underground, (going underground)
&lt;br/&gt;Well the brass bands play and feet start to pound
&lt;br/&gt;Going underground, (going underground)
&lt;br/&gt;Well let the boys all sing and the boys all shout for tomorrow
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;We talk and talk until my head explodes
&lt;br/&gt;I turn on the news and my body froze
&lt;br/&gt;The braying sheep on my TV screen
&lt;br/&gt;Make this boy shout, make this boy scream!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Going underground, I'm going underground
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Thanx
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Gary
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Entity Team!        &lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-11-12T12:10:13Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Anunaki</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Kevin</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/ef38108d-09cd-48e7-bf86-b2b0be72e498</id>
    <updated>2007-11-09T07:23:03Z</updated>
    <published>2007-11-08T22:43:40Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;And the Earth shall rid its self of all that it is not,
&lt;br/&gt;And the blood of its sons and dauthers shall be avenged.
&lt;br/&gt;Until we can think from the heart and not the mind shall we see all that it is.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-11-08T22:43:40Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Why Disprove Sitchin And Not Religion?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Gary</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/f641f241-bf44-4edf-b191-0eb95d0dc2f4</id>
    <updated>2007-11-07T01:50:09Z</updated>
    <published>2007-11-03T20:41:55Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I don't understand how Sitchin can come up with this theory with loads of evidence. Then have everyone trying to disprove it. But no one as ever tried to disprove religion in the same why. When its about as real as father Christmas. I challenge anyone anywhere to prove with as much evidence as Sitchin presents. That anything in the New Testament is true. When there is evidence carved in temples and pyramided walls all over the world, and scrolls written everywhere by tribes all over the world. Are they too shit scared to face the truth. The one thing It says in the New Testament that is true and was supposedly by the man himself is "The Truth Will Set You Free". And oh brother it truly will!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;No Hell Below Us And Above Us Only Sky.  John Lennon&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2007-11-03T20:41:55Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Nov 10, Steven Greer speaking in Costa Mesa, Ca MUFON</title>
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    <author>
      <name>tron-ee</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://The12thPlanetJoint.tribe.net/thread/8040099f-05a6-44c7-ac8e-487cb5498572</id>
    <updated>2007-10-13T10:02:35Z</updated>
    <published>2007-10-13T10:02:35Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;All,
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;MUFON = Mutual UFO Network, multi-states UFO organization which hosts lecturers, sells books, creates, updates and maintains sighting databases, conducts UFO field studies, trains qualified ET researchers and provides enthusiasts memberships.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;FYI...
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;To:             	osr-admin@setv.org
&lt;br/&gt;From:           	Jamie Hunter &amp;amp;lt;hunter@cox.net&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Subject:        	Steven Greer in Costa Mesa--Nov. 10
&lt;br/&gt;Date sent:      	Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:10:04 -0700
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Greetings,
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Steven Greer will be speaking in Costa
&lt;br/&gt;Mesa on November 10. Anything you can do
&lt;br/&gt;to help us publicize this event would be
&lt;br/&gt;appreciated.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;thanks,
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Jamie Hunter
&lt;br/&gt;MUFON OC
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Love
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;tron&lt;/div&gt;
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  <entry>
    <title>PLANET X CLOSEST TO US 2900, NOT 2013A.D. by Sasha Lessin, Ph.D.</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Sasha (Alex)</name>
    </author>
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    <updated>2007-10-10T19:11:56Z</updated>
    <published>2007-07-27T02:17:31Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;PLANET X CLOSEST TO US 2900, NOT 2013A.D. by Sasha Lessin, Ph.D.    
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Six thousand years ago, astronaut/pioneers from the planet Nibiru dictated Enuma elish--the Creation Epic--to the Sumerians. The Sumerians wrote on clay tablets what the Nibirans told them about how our solar system formed [Sitchin, Z., Genesis Revisited, page 109]. The Creation Epic says Solaris, our Sun, then a solitary star, first created a planet the Nibirans called Tiamat. Tiamat was the proto-Earth. It orbited Solaris counterclockwise. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Next, our Sun, Solaris, called Apsu, created Mercury and propelled Mercury with water and gold to Tiamat. Planet-pairs formed: Venus with Mars, Jupiter with Saturn, Uranus with Neptune. These planetary partners, say the Enuma elish, orbited the Sun counterclockwise, the same direction Tiamat followed. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Tiamat lacked a partner-planet, but one of her moons, Kingu, enlarged. Kingu prepared to partner with Tiamat. Then Kingu could orbit the Sun, rather than Tiamat. But, four billion years ago, before Kingu could attain planetary orbit around Solaris, some 4.6 billion years ago Nibiru invaded the Solar System clockwise. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The gravitational pull of Nibiru tore a piece of Neptune into space. That’s how Nibiru created Neptune’s moon, Triton. Triton, unlike other moons in the inner Solar System, orbits its planet clockwise. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;As Nibiru pierced the System, it lost three moons. But Nibiru gained four. Nibiru ripped four moons from Uranus. Not only that, but the invader tilted poor Uranus’ orbit. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Nibiru slung Gaga, Saturn’s largest moon, into clockwise orbit (between Neptune and Uranus). We call Gaga Pluto. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;One of Nibiru's moons slammed into Tiamat and gouged out huge chunks. These chunks of Tiamat careened into space. The huge gouge in Tiamat where Nibiru’s moon hit is now the Pacific Basin. The chunks of Tiamat that exploded into space are now asteroids and comets. What's left of Tiamat is our present Earth. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In the Pacific, waters and life-seeds of Nibiru and Tiamat evolved together. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Nibiru’s gravity gripped and took with it all Tiamat’s moons except Kingu, the moon which, just before Nibiru invaded, verged on creating its own orbit around Solaris. But Nibiru’s invasion left Kingu lifelessly orbiting Earth, rather than Solaris. Tiamat's other moons became satellites of Nibiru. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The orbit Nibiru then followed, is inclined (17 to 30 degrees) to the ecliptic and clockwise, rather than counterclockwise, as are the orbits of the other planets circling our Sun. Nibiru, like Halley’s Comet, “as it nears the Sun, from the south, from below the ecliptic, near Uranus,. It arches above the ecliptic and makes the turn around the Sun, saying “Hello” to Saturn, Jupiter and Mars; then it comes down and crosses the ecliptic nare the site of Nibiru’s Celestial Battle with Tiamat–the Crossing-and is gone.” [Sitchin, Z., 2007, The End of Days, page 184] 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Nibiru stabilized into a clockwise orbit equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun. “3,600 has always been a mathematical orbital period, because celestial orbits–of planets, comets, asteroids–digress from orbit to orbit due to the gravitational tug of other planets near which they pass.” [Sitchin, Z., 2007, The End of Days, page 314] 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;13,000 years ago, around 10,900 B.C. E., "in the Whiteland, at the Earth's bottom, off its foundation, the [Antarctic] icesheet slipped. By Nibiru's netforce it was pulled into the south sea. A tidal wave arose, northward spreading. [Sitchin, Z., 2002, The Lost Book of Enki, page 227]. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Nibiru, up to the Deluge--causing perigee, 10,900 B.C.E., this point, had come nearest the Sun (perigee) every 3, 600 years. Every 3, 600 years, Nibiru crosses the ecliptic–the plane of Earth’s orbit around the Sun. At that point, Nibiru–called the “Celestial Lord” (depicted by the ancients as a winged disc) up till then–becomes “The Planet of the Cross” and many humans expect the leading Nibirans to return to Earth and validate their hopes and religious expectations. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But around 10,900 B.C.E., Miranda, a moon of Nibiru, hit Uranus and became a moon of Uranus. Sitchin writes: “Uranus lies on its side–its north-south axis faces the Sun horizontally instead of being vertical to it” and “caused the “ploughed feature that NASA’s Voyager 2 found on Miranda.” Uranus and Neptune “have been drifting away from the Sun...and that can explain why nothing happened out there” for 120 revolutions of Nibiru around Solaris. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Then “on its “Deluge” orbit, Nibiru encountered the drifting Uranus” and Miranda “struck Uranus, tilting it on its side... and ended up captured to orbit Uranus.” This affected the orbit of Nibiru, sped it up to 3400 Earth years rather than 3600, ... resulting in a post-Diluvial reappearance schedule of circa 7400, circa 4000 and circa 550 B.C.E.” 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The gravitational pull of Uranus on Nibiru sped Nibiru's orbit around the Sun to 3,450 Earth-years. Nibiru's next perigee, when it's again closest to Earth, will be around 2900A.D., not 2012, as it would have been had it continued 3,600 year revolutions around Solaris. [Sitchin, Z., 2007, The End of Days, page 316]). 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Nibirans who genetically engineered us by grafting their genes with those of Homo Erectus and then repeatedly interbreeding with the hybrids are not limited, however, to this 2900 ecliptic crossing of Nibiru. Nibirans come near enough to easily reach Earth with the spacecraft they’ve been using so far as early as 2087AD and can leave, catching Nibiru on its way out of the inner solar system for the next 75 years or so. 
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